Daily Hand Quiz

This is a great flop for a thinking player to float on a final table bubble, as he has lots of aces in his flatting range that he can represent. Given that he is a good, thinking, player, he may try to get us off a king on the final table bubble with a big bet representing such a large portion of our stack. Many times he’ll bet smaller with aces or flushes to induce a possible shove as a bluff from us in the small blind, therefore I feel we have to call this bet vs. a good, tricky player.

What actually happened: You called and the BB showed 87o for a bluff

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If he had a strong ace (AK, AQ), he’d have re-raised preflop. If he had a medium/weak ace, he’d bet small or check it down. His strong bet doesn’t tell a credible story. I like my chances and I call.

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Our check call on the turn set up the check call on the river. No backing out now.

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i think i bottled it

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Richard is right on. River doesn’t represent any new danger, so calling the turn pretty much scripted the river call. If he has me beat, fine – I’m happy to still have chips left.

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Nice call, I voted fold. Read the riv bet as a flush as v would have probably checked-down 2-pr. Call on the turn was to get (hope) a free riv.

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if youre calling the turn, you call the river. it didnt get any worse for you. plus checking the turn basically signalled that you c-bet the flop and he could easily have tried to steal, and is now following through on that steal attempt after our river check. you could be beat, but like i said, if youre calling the turn, its because you thought you were good….stick with it….

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I voted call, like Richard said, what’s done is done. Would anyone have decided to push all in on this person after his river bet? You’d have chips left ($50k if I read this right) but it would be the opponents decision to call your big re-raise to all in. His bet also doesn’t scream confidence. Just curious.

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On the turn your hand has not really improved. you were either ahead from the get go or way behind. So your hand still has the same strength on the turn as the flop. If you check you are opening the opp for him to bluff should have fired another barrel on the turn or else you should call down here on the final two streets.

Anyone agree or disagree?

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now you have to call, but I’m not sure about that call on the flop…

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>ranamuck
>4.1.09 / 9pm

>On the turn your hand has not really improved.

You were behind but are now ahead of hands like pocket pairs that he would not preflop raise with, 45s, K9s (Ok, he prolly does not have K9s), etc. The real question I guess you are asking if his line is consistent with any of these hands on the turn when the “good news” hits (prior to seeing his river action, which might rule these hands out). I guess he’d fold the tiny pairs prior to the turn and maybe raise some of his middling/high pairs, prior. Hrm.

And, ya, turn call = river call here I think. A pro will abuse the bubble, we all know; but I wondered if he’d take that risk of getting called down here, rather than just wait for a better spot against the table. But, this all makes his hand look stronger, and he knows it, thus… And by the river, he knows you do not have an ace. And his line might read as strength to many players (in his mind, you are laying down what? Hands like 99d?). This river bet-size (unless you are known to be a great hand reader and he is using that against you) takes out a ton of semi-decent hands out of his range.

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You shouldn’t even think about this call. You do it right away. By checking the river, you have induced a bluff. This is a classic case of when check-calling the river (I rarely advocate check-calling any other street) saves you money on a hand you are going to show down. If you had bet out, you could have been raised by an ace or a stone cold bluff.

By check-calling, you pick off hands like a 45 suited and bluffs without risking the extra money you would have to consider calling if you had your river bet raised.

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