May 22, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz

DailyHandQuiz

Game type: 1k freezeout, Full Tilt Poker
Stage of tourney: Early
Your image: n/a
Opponent’s image: n/a
Your hand:

The setup: You’re still in the first blind level of the 1k freezeout on Full Tilt. You get dealt AQo and a player in early position limps. The table folds to you in the CO and you make it 4x. The players behind fold and the limper calls. You flop top pair:

3♥4♦Q♥

Your opponent checks. You bet 120 into 190. Your opponent check raises you to 300. You call. The turn is the 4♠.

Your opponent leads for 340 info 790. What’s your play?

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DHQ Staff


While your opponent may be price-setting with a draw, it’s also hard to discount the possibility that he has a good hand. I’m looking to play pot control and if that means I let a draw get there for a little bit less than I might otherwise, so be it.

I’m probably calling the river as well unless I face a very large bet that suggests a set or overpair.

What actually happened: You called. The river was a 3 and your opponent bet around the pot. You called and were shown quad 3s.

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Runefs


based on preflop and flop play I’d say he’s most likely holding tt, JJ A-Q or AKh (or maybe AXh).
AA and KK are less likely since a check raise with a flush draw (and a some what funky straight draw) is to risky whereas cr with TT and JJ might help define

Some would (incorrectly) call the 4x raise with a low pair but if I have not read i’ll disregard that in my hand range.
the AK fades on the river so I’d put him on TT,JJ, AQ or A4h. Except for A4h we’re either splitting or way ahead and A4h would have been incorrect preflop. The last 3 makes it even more unlikely that he has pocket 3′s so I’d call (and get on with the next hand)

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judgedredd13


if anyone aggrees or disagrees with me would like to hear it, always looking for more oppinions on hands thanx :)

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Richard P


With an M of over 150 I think it’s ok to limp call for set value, especially if we are going to call the turn and the river (pot sized bet around 30% of our remaining stack). Best to throw away our top top on the turn.

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John Kugelman


It smells like a set or a draw played very aggressively. I think a set is more likely since drawers don’t usually check/raise the flop, but I’ll pay off two small bets just in case I’m wrong.

I don’t like calling the pot-sized river bet when a 3 comes as we can only beat a busted draw at that point (or a badly-played KQ/QJ). I would pay off a small bet there but fold to a large one.

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_CityBorn_


Only Phil Hellmuth might not make this call. Dont raise, play for pot control, but theres no way were folding this here. If a heart of king comes on the river and he goes haywire and shoves, thats cause for considering a fold. Otherwise, its an easy call (despite the outcome). Some hands just play themselves.

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Rhycar


My analysis when I read the problem was that I was up against a full house or quads. The limp-call in early position screams low to middle pair, and the check raise on the flop with the bet on the turn looks like a monster. Still, I don’t know if I could fold this. I’d probably be calling the turn and river, but I’d be just sick about it. Just goes to show that you should sometimes follow your gut, but it’s hard that early in the tournament. If you honestly would fold here, you’re probably a damn good player.

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Richard P


I would have put in the third bet on the flop say to 1000, not to see where we are at but for value (we have top top on a flush board). We then know very quickly if we are in fact not ahead by meeting any action other than a fold, and therefore we will know not to put one more chip in. By just calling the flop check raise we in fact escalate the pot rather than control it as we don’t know where we are but feel like we can’t fold. Betting 1000 on the flop is way cheaper and better than calling twice. As it is I do fold the turn as can’t call the river.

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samo2


I voted call. I’d fold on the riv to the pot-sized bet, and likely call a value-sized bet. Villain could be on a flush-draw and the size of their turn-bet gives no info whatsoever(draw or boat). I would have r-r the flop c-r … agree with Richard P on the economics of it.

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sports bettor


raise all-in.

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Kaloyan


You raise pre flop, bet into the pot, called a raise and if you call the turn bet it’s pretty clear you are going nowhere. So why would someone bet the river when he knows you’re calling? – Because you beat and therefore you should fold what is now a worthless TP/TK. I personally havent called there once and not see a set at least.

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Bozo


You should’ve reraised his check raise to see where you were at.

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Jibby21


Reading the way this hand was played, I would have to believe that my hand was no good on the turn. The limp call from early position would suggest to me that he has either a small-low mid pair (66 or 77) or perhaps a suited AX in the region of A10 upwards. Perhaps not AK as I feel that as it is early in the tournament people are unlikely to get tricky with a big hand like that. I would have to discount a pocket pair in the region of 88s upwards as again it is early in the tournament and I personally don’t like limping with hands like this early on.

Onto the flop and the check raise can be read as either a draw or a set (obviously). However, I would have to feel that perhaps it is a set as, again, it is early on in the tournament, and I personally would be unlikely to let another card peel off on that board if I had a set. If I am holding top pair however, I don’t know if a re raise would be a good idea. Nothing huge but just to see where I was, however, 9 times out of 10 I only call on the flop.

WIth a blank on the turn flush wise it looks to me he/she is now betting for value so would have to fold there even though I am getting good odds. As Kaloyan said I have never seen someone take a line like that where my top pair is winning. This is purely my personal opinion of this hand and would be interested to hear if anyone disagrees as I am always eager to learn in this game.

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