
Game type: $150 freezeout, PokerStars
Your image: Aggressive
Opponent’s image: No strong read
Your hand: A♦Q♥
The setup: You’ve built a nice stack in this freezeout with aggressive play and some strong hands. This hand you’re dealt AQ on the button. The table folds to you and you make it 500. The SB thinks a second and the raises all in, and the BB moves all in over the top.
Average stack in the tournament is just about 5k.
What’s your play?
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You’re crushing the SBs range, so what about the BB? There’s 3k in a sidepot between the two of you. The BB can’t put either of you on that big of a hand but needs to have something to take to showdown – I’d say pairs 66 and better and AJs+.
You’re 60-40 versus that range. With the chips added, you’re getting a decent price.
These seem like kind of gambles that are worth taking to build a stack that you can use to absorb all ins from shorter stacks when the blinds really start to escalate in a few levels. If you’re wrong, you drop back down to a slightly better than average stack and start building again.
What actually happened: You called and were shown KTo by the SB and JJ by the BB. KT made a straight and JJ hit a set.
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AQ barely stand an all-in, certainly not two. I fold.
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I would fold. BB is far more likely to have a pair than AK or a loose AJ. We currently have twice the average stack but I don’t think it’s worth the risk to ship in another 20+bbs to have a shot at being over three times av stack vs losing our current position as table big stack even though we can afford the hit and are getting an ok price.
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Easy fold. I would probably call the SB if BB hadn’t come over the top. I’m not calling off half my stack against two all ins with AQo (I might call with AK, but it would be close). Fold and move on.
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i fold as well. the bb is likelier to have a strong hand then the sb, and hes the one with more chips so the side pot does not look like an easy victory (not that they ever are). im putting him on about the same range as staff, but factoring that if one of them has a pair, at least one of my outs are likely in the other players hand. no need to put so many chips up here.
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I don’t agree that BBs range is strong. As a BB in this situation, I am thinking that hero is either stealing, or won’t stand 2 all-ins w/o a top premium hand. (QQ+, or AK)
Hence if I am BB, I will likely shove with any A, any pair, and some Broadway. Assuming I can get hero to fold, I am betting 1730 to win 2630, or about 2:1. Even better, if I lose, I am far from out.
So as hero I am suspicious. I am likely to have BB dominated, the pot odds are there, and if I lose I am far from out also.
I call.
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The question is :- Why would BB risk all his 5K chips against a raise and an all in unless he had at least JacKs. The Blinds are 100/200 so he has plenty of life in him. You are in a race at best so fold.
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hey Menace…he doesn’t figure he’s risking his 5k. He could make that with a less strong hand because button has so much trash mixed in with his raising range.
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Wow sounds like a pokerstars hand to me. either way im not sure i would risk it, its half of your stack probably up against at least one pocket pair. fold and walk on.
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@Menace – I see it opposite.
BB is looking to isolate because he only wants 1 opponent rather than 2. If he just calls, hero is clearly priced in. When he shoves, he’s saying he wants us out.
We’re clearly ahead of most of SBs range except maybe 88-QQ. BB is probably ahead with a med pair but could also have any decent Ace.
In the end, I’m really tempted but I probably let it go and look for a better spot with a little less risk.
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OK,
I understand what you are all saying, but can you think about this in another sense for just a moment.
The average chip stack is $5000, you have double that infront of you.
Small Blind is short stacked with less than 10BB in front of him, and your on the button raising, once everyone else has folded to you… (you already probably have an agressive image)
The BB has just pushed over the top, for an extra 4500 on top of what you already have in.
To me, that move by the BB is usually a typical indicator of mid pockets wanting heads up.
If that is the case then i believe with AQo you have a just reason to put the extra 4475 to win the 7705 in the pot.
Even if you knew that he was holding jacks, it could be argued that it is not a bad decision to call because in a three way pot the jacks only have a 2.5% edge over you and you are getting decent odds.
Personally i believe that in that situation, where you have a chance to raise your stack to 17000, it would not be such a bad call.
If you have a read on a player that says they would make this move with QQ+ or AKs, then fold, but when offered these odds, in this situation, it makes for a big fold.
Btw, unless you are a player that only plays well chipped up, then making this call and losing still leaves you with just about average stack if not a bit more, and your touney definatley is not over.
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Excellent points by those that would call, but I still vote fold. The BB all-in tells me they were just waiting for that kind of action in the hopes to pull me in as well. Yes, I’m still an average stack if I lose, but using Big Chick as a hand to get ahead without a flop? I’m folding and watching the results closely.
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