Daily Hand Quiz

What we said then: I like a re-raise here, to about 1400. The original opener is in there wide, and the button knows this. That means they’re raising wide as well. Under those conditions, TT is a monster, and the chance to increase your stack by about 15% without a flop is a solid opportunity.

What if someone reships? If both players get it in, you can probably fold safely, but against either one individually, you’ll be getting better than 2-1 to call, which beats the price you need to run TT against JJ and AK . If you lose, you’ll at least still have a handful of chips to mount a comeback with.

What actually happened: You folded and the original raiser folded.

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Tricky spot. Not really deep enough to call for set value. 4 betting ourselves would have to be in the region of 2000 IMO not to be flatted OOP (disastrous) so do we really want to stick in around a third of our stack to win 13%? And what if we get 5 bet shoved on if somone has a genuine hand. I dont want to commit my M of 74 (!) stack with 10 10 preflop so voted fold.

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on the button i play this differently but cos its small blind, i just fold, hardly anything invested, i can wait for a better spot

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I think it is a clear fold. We are out of position, and have a good stack. I would say there is about 10% chance we are up against at least one higher pair, plus another 30% chance we are up against at least one hand with 2 overcards, plus another 15% chance we are up against something else like A9s or 99 and lose anyway.

Wait for a better spot.

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I’m glad to see I folded this on the original quiz, because I think that’s the right play. Out of position, facing a raise and a re-raise (from a TAG) makes TT a marginal hand. Yes, we probably have the original raiser crushed, but the button is a huge problem. He’s tight, he has a stack that can hurt us and he’s in position. Under these circumstances, I’m only playing four hands (AA-QQ, AK). I’d re-raise with AA-QQ, probably just call with AK.

BTW, this is a spot where a lot of people will lose a lot of money. TT is a good starting hand, but more times than not you’re going to see an overcard or two come on the flop. That’s usually OK if you only have a single raise to play against, but against a three-bet, that prospect gets unfriendly in a hurry. You must be careful with a hand like TT, especially in this situation. I’m not saying I would always fold TT to a three-bet, but in this situation, I think it’s the only play.

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P.S.: I just read staff’s comments, and I’m trying not to laugh.

“…against either one individually, you’ll be getting better than 2-1 to call, which beats the price you need to run TT against JJ and AK .”

Um, no it’s not. Against JJ-AA (all legitimate hands for villain), you need roughly 4-1. You’re flipping against AK, so that point is valid. But against a TAG three-better, I’m not sure how many other hands you can include in his range. Maybe AQ or 99, but just maybe. Not enough for me to play.

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The big button raise smells weakness…he is in position and if he raises so big probably he doesn’t want to see a flop. I put him on 99-TT-JJ or AK. If we reraises he probably lays down 99-TT and AK and perhaps even JJ. Maybe only queens would crush us. With KK or AA I think we’d probably raise a smaller amount. Just a feeling, perhaps I’m crushed, but I’m going to reraise…1500 looks right to me…if he shove I call because of pot odds…

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I agree fold…however it tilts me when the “what actually happened” is “you folded…” Sweet.

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Even tho I agree that more than 3x re-raise smells weakness, it stills is an easy fold for me OOP and with comparable stacks that are relatively deep (>M50).

I could raise this offline, if there was a good read on the 3better, that he actually does play-the-player here.

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I fold here for the following reasons.
1) If I have action or give action, I will be out of position. A taggish player reraising means he will put pressure on me if I just call and check the flop. Will I be able to call a flop bet and then call a turn bet if 2 overs are on the board against a preflop reraiser? Probably not.
2) If either of them has an overpair to my tens, I am screwed right now.
3) If I call and either of them has AK, they are going to re-reraise, and then I will have to fold fearing the overpair and , if they 3 bet, be getting the wrong price for set-mining, where I would have to stack the person 100% of the time to break-even.

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 I’m surprised calling got more votes than raising – you don’t have odds to setmine so you’re hoping for a low flop, and you’re still crushed by an overpair – which is a significant part of the buttons 3bet range

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4bet/fold. i agree with staff’s comments about buttons range being wide here. If they 5bet shove tho i’d put them on a really strong range like QQ+/AKs, mostly KK+, so i don’t think you can call a 5bet shove. I’m surprised more people opted to call than raise. It’s a bad spot to call because you’re hoping for a low flop, or a Ten obv, and even if you get a safe looking flop you are still crushed by the overpairs in the buttons 3bet range

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We have 100BB fold now and wait for a better spot..

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