February 10, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz

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Game type: $100 1 rebuy, 1 add on, Full Tilt Poker
Stage of tourney: Final Table
Your image: TAG
Opponent’s image: Very aggressive
Your hand: Q♠8♣

The setup: You’re down to the final six in this online MTT. The table folds to you in the SB.

Your opponent is a very competent, aggressive opponent.

What’s your play?

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16 COMMENTS  (Jump to comment form)

DHQ Staff


What actually happened: You folded.

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RED


This is not a raise-fold or call-fold situation. I want to send a message to the short stack that he’s going out if he calls & misses. Pokerstove indicates this is a advantage situation 54:46 and the pot odds (dead money) are right to take this shot vs. the bb.

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Anonymous


Raise to 14k, if he shoves over the top I prob reluctantly fold but I certainly consider calling

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Rhycar


Got to stay aggressive. Raise about half his stack, something between 17k and 20k. Call if he shoves. You MUST stay aggressive at this point in the tourney to keep accumulating chips and to let the table know you won’t be pushed around.

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mattman


I think that he has to understand that if he decides to play, it’s going to be for all of his chips. That being said, I don’t particularly care for the strength of this hand, though it’s a slight favorite over a random hand, so I’ll exert maximum pressure on him right now, and shove all-in. I don’t want him speculating with “live cards” for anything less than his entire stack right now, and there’s enough dead money out there to try to take this down right now.

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MNOWAX


this is a no brainer for me, raise and call a shove. if he wakes up with a hand, so be it, but the reality is that you’re either giving him a walk or raising and calling his shove. im not a fan of moving in, but i would watch a stop and go if he just calls.

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Sunshine


I’m letting it go — I don’t wanna give a very aggressive player more chips than he’s already got here, but I’d rather give him 1700 chips than 40k. Also, I’ve got the button next hand and a better-than-good chance of stealing not one blind, but both. I’m playing it different against a tight player, but you can pretty much guarantee that a “very aggressive” guy is gonna shove almost any two here, and if they happen to be a little better than my Q8o, well, it wasn’t worth it was it?

You’re in good chip position now, why give it up by making a 54/46 shove here?

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whiteboybum


raising to half his stack will only tempt him more to come over the top with a wider range of hands, which you don’t want, and which you will call anyways. you will more likely find him folding to a shove.

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jspring86


Raising half of his stack is stupid because you’d be more than committed to calling if he shoves…theres only two plays…shove or fold. That being said, if this guy is competent he’s probably calling the shove with pretty much every hand that beats me, and folding most of those that don’t…so against a competent aggressive player I’d fold. If the player was tight I could get him to fold a lot of hands I’m losing to, and I’d probably shove it in.

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teddy


jspring86 is correct. it IS either shove or fold. i believe raising half his stack commits you to the pot if he shoves all in. I think folding here is a good move as you will lose over 1/3 of your chips if you lose an all-in. right now youre in good shape. dont blow it.

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Thailer


Nobody is proposing a more proper raising range to approx 10k. I believe that raise would only get shoved by a better hand than Q8 and would get a fold out of a worse hand. The dead money makes the play worthwhile even if we get shoved and have to fold. It also keeps the heat on the aggressive player and might get him to shove into a stronger hand the next time we make the same play.

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ohscissorme


fold. plz.

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moysian


I go “all in” ala Harrington. Your villian is short stacked withan “M” of 5. Put the pressure on him before he does it to you (which will surely happen if you just call or raise small). Even if he calls and is non-paired with better cards, your odds are about right.

Second choice is fold.

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X


Your implied stack is your opponent’s in this situation. If you were your opponent, you would be shoving with this hand. So do it. Regardless of whether he’s aggressive or not, he’s not calling you without something. And if he does, you may not be that far behind. You could draw out on him.

Raising other than an all-in is really a mistake. Your plan to fold to a re-raise is transparent. It’s the sort of thing an “aggressive player” knows and will exploit.

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crwfrd


Its shove/fold i think: – if you call thats super passive and you’re folding to any raise or shove and if you see a flop you miss most of the time and are playing OOP v aggressive villain, if you raise you should raise smaller than 3x and be folding to a shove. i prefer shoving most of the time in this spot, because even against a loose player you will get a fold most of the time – when you are called you’re likely to be behind but not in terrible shape. The aggressive player is going to prefer waiting till he has position so he can be the aggressor and not be calling off his stack in a marginal situation

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KataLyzT


all in move makes the raise move redundant hence it’s either shove or fold.

furthermore, if you raise say 2.5x and fold to re-raise, arent u advertising to the table you can be bullied by a 3-bet when u are raising light on late positions?

raise only with strong hands to trap 3-bet aggro players…

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