
Game type: $100 Rebuy tournament on Poker Stars
Stage of tourney: After rebuy period
Your image: A generally laggy player who has been playing tight for the
prior 20 hands
Opponent’s image: Very active
Your hand: A♥T♥
This hand is from our archives and originally appeared on July 11th. View the original quiz and comments here.
This hand was submitted by David “Malicous222/Ghettofabolous” Randall, a coach over at www.pokerpwnage.com. Thanks, David!
The setup: Villain opens in mid position, he had opened approximately 2-3 times per orbit and we’re 7 handed.
What’s your play?
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7 handed against a loose player i think my ATs would be good. So no folding for me.
Calling at this position is not done imo.
That leaves a raise. I would raise to 7000 here.
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Flat call. Based on the fact it’s suited – offsuit and I’d fold.
Loose player, chip leader and has you well covered. A raise here and he may put you all-in with a mediocre hand purely on the fact he has 5 times the chips of anyone else at the table and has a good chance of having live cards.
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I voted call as the least worst option. Folding would be safe with an ace that could be dominated OOP but we are getting over 3 to 1 against a LAG so folding would be nitish. My inclination was to of course raise with a hand likely to be far better than opp but there is no raise that IMO can work for us. A half pot raise is the only raise where our stack will be greater than the pot with opponent’s call but we would be giving 3 to 1 and opp has shown interest and would insta call with his stack. Then what do we do if we miss the flop? Check fold having put a fifth of our stack in? Any other raise makes us pot committed and therefore if choosing to raise the all in would be best. But that is a ridiculous play where we will only be called by a hand that beats us or given opps stack wants to race with us. With an M of 10 I call and see a flop. If I had more or less chips I would raise.
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I voted call as the least worst option. Folding would be safe with an ace that could be dominated OOP but we are getting over 3 to 1 against a LAG so folding would be nitish. My inclination was to of course raise with a hand likely to be far better than opp but there is no raise that IMO can work for us. A half pot raise is the only raise where our stack will be greater than the pot with opponent’s call but we would be giving 3 to 1 and opp has shown interest and would insta call with his stack. Then what do we do if we miss the flop? Check fold having put a fifth of our stack in? Any other raise makes us pot committed and therefore if choosing to raise the all in would be best. But that is a ridiculous play where we will only be called by a hand that beats us or given opps stack wants to race with us. With an M of 10 I call and see a flop. If I had more or less chips I would raise.
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I voted call as the least worst option. Folding would be safe with an ace that could be dominated OOP but we are getting over 3 to 1 against a LAG so folding would be nitish. My inclination was to of course raise with a hand likely to be far better than opp but there is no raise that IMO can work for us. A half pot raise is the only raise where our stack will be greater than the pot with opponent’s call but we would be giving 3 to 1 and opp has shown interest and would insta call with his stack. Then what do we do if we miss the flop? Check fold having put a fifth of our stack in? Any other raise makes us pot committed and therefore if choosing to raise the all in would be best. But that is a ridiculous play where we will only be called by a hand that beats us or given opps stack wants to race with us. With an M of 10 I call and see a flop. If I had more or less chips I would raise.
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Ok I am a donk. I comment three times with the wrong M. As our M is around 7 and not 10 this now goes from a ridiculous shove to a correct shove.
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Fold – You are oop vs. a super stack. Raising puts you at risk of being pushed all-in with a mediocre hand. See a flop to try and chip-up.
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Im with samo. Call and play some poker. Youve got a nice hand vs a lag whos got chips to burn, this could spell doubleup if the right cards come…and if you play it well, you could take it down with the worst post flop hand too. Shoving all in preflop with a second tier hand against the one guy at the table who can call without blinking is not the best option.
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Hmm…let me clarify. Im with samo’s last sentence, not his first
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Hmm … guess I needed an extra cafe this morning … meant to say call, not fold.
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i wanna know what happened!
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As Richard said – ATs OOP against LAG opponent and M of 7 is pretty standard shove. Slightly shorter stack and I would opt stop and go, but here I really don’t see any reason to get tricky. Just reship.
@Kohatu: we reraised and villain folded.
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I’m with the callers, possibly with a mind to a stop-and-go shove on the flop.
I don’t see any raise working pre flop here. Between our table image and our M, our opponent can consider himself priced in with most holdings if we shove pre flop. A smaller raise is just going to get us called and leave us with a tough choice on the flop.
A fold is too passive, unless we’re changing up our aggression and think we can steal easier pots later on.
So I call, hope to hit a decent flop, and possibly prepare to shove anyway, as our opponent is likely to miss and our hand is almost certain to have outs if he calls a shove.
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Yeah this to me is a laggy player with the big stack who is 9 out of 10 times stealing from this position. I push with a stack this small and win the pot right then or race when he makes a bad call. If I am beat I am beat but most of the time we are good hear. He folds most of the time in this spot.
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all in
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Ship or you are just playing bad tournament poker.
I have never really understood how people can play tournaments so badly whilst playing cashgames pretty decent.
Tournament life is definately overrated by a lot of players.
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