May 17, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz

DailyHandQuiz

Game type: $150 freezeout on PokerStars
Stage of tourney: Middle stages
Your image: n/a
Opponent’s image: No strong read
Your hand: T♣T♦

The setup: You’ve dwindled to a short stack in this freezeout tournament. You’re pretty happy where you’re dealt TT in the SB, until a lot of action erupts in front. UTG makes it a little under 3x, and UTG+1 re-raises. The tables folds to you.

What’s your play? Would you change your answer if you held JJ?

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DHQ Staff


With under ten big blinds, I’m going to need a lot more action in front to fold tens here.

Let’s say the larger UTG stack is raising with a fairly conventional range: 55, AJs, KQs, AQo . As for UTG 1, I think the 4x raise is a bit of a tell – you’ll rarely see people bet this much with AA or KK. Usually the larger bet means ‘I have a hand I feel like I have to raise with, but I don’t want action.’ That feels like: QQ-66,AQs ,AQo .

If all the money goes in preflop, you have about 37% equity about those ranges, meaning you’re getting an awesome price. However, UTG is going to be folding something like 80% of his range, so most of the time you’re going to be up against just UTG 1′s entire range, which you’re nearly a 60-40 favorite against. It’s hard to find a more favorable situation in tournament poker than that.

Even when you end up getting it in against the very top of both players ranges, you still have about 20% equity.

What actually happened: You called and ended up being up against QQ and AA, and lost the hand.

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kaimano


Ah ah! All that analysis and then you’re against two overpairs! Listen to me, fold those fuc*ing tens and wait for a better spot!

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Marty


I said fold too…. the most amusing quiz I’ve seen… but of course we shouldn’t be results orientated.

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drhoho


This is a fold in my book.

Sure we are desperately short, but so is most of the table.

The table chippie opens UTG, allthough most of the table is so short that he would have to call a shove from them.

Then the 2. chippie decides that he want to 3-bet the only player who has him covered on the table, when that player opens UTG. I don’t think he does this with less than AK, JJ+. I find it ridicoulus that the staff adds 66-99 to his range.

If it was mid- or late position action I migth be in, especially if it had been the chippie bullying the 2. chippie opening late in stead of vice versa in early position.

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Bert


This is the easiest fold ever. Your not exactly pot committed. Id rather shove the button with K7 and get called by A10 than shove with 10 10 here.

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samo2


Staff – the vast majority of the time you do a great job analyzing, however I believe you have to give more credit to the early raisers, especially the UTG+1 raising ~1/2 their stack. I voted fold, not suprised that both vs have strong hands.

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Action Brett


I folded too. While I agree with the staff’s analysis, a raise and a reraise from early position would nearly always indicate to me that there’s a hand out there that I’m losing too. As a short stack, i’m looking for the best situation to get the rest of my stack in the middle, and this might not be it. That said, i can;t say I’d fold here in every instance.

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Mary


Sammo, got it all. The raise doesn’t scare the 10s, the commitment of half the stack of the reraiser folded my tens.

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_CityBorn_


Whats funny about this quiz is that I got knocked from a sit n go last night calling my stack off against a raiser and a reraiser with jacks. they both had AK and i was feeling good, but they spiked a king to split my money. I think what you do here is completely based on reads. that table was fairly loose and i was getting shortstacked.

with no reads, in mid stages of an MTT, against 2 early position raisers, low stacked, but several stacks comparable to mine at the table, and holding TT for all my chips, im probably folding.

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Mike Litoris


I agree. When UTG+1 3bets close to 50% of his stack, I am not putting him on anything less than JJ+, we are beaten here. Easy laydown.

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Mike


Staff on here makes some of the worst calls ever. You have to know you’re way behind here; how couldn’t you???

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Josh


Isn’t this an obvious fold??? There is no math out there that would cause me to call this. Also, you’re in the SB so you will be on the button next and have plenty of time to find a better hand to move with. Wait it out.

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Rhycar


This is one of those very rare situation where you would fold TT with an M of 4. You’ve just seen the chip leader UTG raise. UTG knows a lot of the stacks at the table are getting desperate, so his raise indicates some pretty good strength (I’d guess 99+, AK, maybe AQ). Seeing that, the second biggest stack REREAIES! If you were confident you could take on UTG, this next raise should make you duck and run.

Yes you are desperate, and yes you need to push soon. But you won’t be in the blinds for 8 more hands, and there has to be a better sitation that this one in the near future. Fold (and try not to vomit while doing so).

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Sparklepants


I’m folding here, although I’m sick about it. But part of good judgment is knowing when your hand has diminished in value, and while that usually happens after the flop you can be pretty sure in this case that your hand is looking not as good after two raises as it was when it was dealt.

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Bobby Valentine


I would smack my opponent in his teeths

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staynskool


you are in the small blind and you have a raise and a re reaise and the guy rereaised for half his stack. i would would because you can figure a more facvorable spot to go all in with especailly since youll be in position for the next couple of hands. is pocket 10 ‘s with a raise and a rereaise what you want to put your tournament on?

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Flop_Bunny


i’m short-stacked — heck yes i would hve mucked those puppies! Been playing online freeroll poker for 2 yesrs wanting to win just one tourney… so i’m tightening up (not my nature lol) Just wanna hold on…dumping AQ, JK, AK etc. in the face of table sharks over-the-top pre-flop raises. Finally won my first at RedStar on Friday — Omaha Hi — million-half in chips & 1st place grand total $4 and some cents.

Yessss i would have mucked those tens, trying 2 feel that winning high again. Felt like i’d won 4 mil…ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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twobotbit


When UTG+1 re-raises UTG – the ONLY player at the table who could knock him out of the tournament, I would be thinking he is prepared to put all of his chips into the middle. He is holding no less than a high pocket pair of Queens or above. Judging by the bet I would actually put him on pocket Queens – he has re-raised alot more, which means he probably doesn’t want a call, especially if UTG turns over AK.

On another note, should you call with your TT – even if you are ahead the chances of both opponents having 4 overcards is pretty likely – so given that you could have 4 cards that can beat you and they have 5 chances in which do so – I would fold, happily.

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poop


lawl, cawl

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