Daily Hand Quiz

At under 10BBs, there are a lot of hands that might be looking attractive to the BB at this point. The action in front of him will tighten up his range somewhat, but it’s still probably 99+ and AQs+. Against that range you’re about a 55-45 dog, so if the CO weren’t in the hand, it would be a clear call.

What about the CO, then? You guys are both playing pretty deep, so he can certainly fold his hand. His calling range should be pretty tight, and if you get it in against both players, you’re probably about 25% to win the whole thing and a 60-40 dog to win the large sidepot.

I think shoving is the right play here, although you’re going to feel like crap the times when the CO shows up with AA. A 30k pot that you’re more than able to contest is motivation enough to make this risky play.

What actually happened: You folded and the CO called. The BB showed AK and the CO showed TT, which won the hand.

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You have a good stack, hardly anything committed to the pot (fortunatly, as I would have put 4x) and you’re somewhere near the money (which presuambly is more than usual as it is a rebuy)… So why gamble with the all-in? If the CO calls (of which there is a decent enough chance) you are probably crippled. Even if he folds you are only 50/50 to pick up the 30K vs the BB.

Fold.

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Fold, no need to guess and be wrong. As a bigger stack, you should be able to run over the table and gang up on the shorties to continue to build chips.

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I voted call to fold to a shove as we currently only need a 26% hand and are 45% good if up against two overs and an underpair. We don’t have the odds against an overpair but will know if cutoff has a bigger pair if they shove.

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the BB shove is an underraise so calling may be an option to see a flop before deciding what to do

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I voted call and see what the other big stack does. As usual, I would’ve won!

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The problem is that the CO is pot committed at this point, he only needs to add 5k more to win a pot of 45,000 if you only call. And, if you have three going to the flop, at absolute BEST you’re racing, and more likely to win only about 30% of the time. The ONLY two options here are fold or shove.

I think the clear answer here then, is to fold. The goal in a tournament at this stage is survival. If you shove you still need to worry about the CO calling, and that just isn’t a position you want to be put in at this point in the tournament, considering the stacks. Pick a better spot.

If it was down to only you and the BB shove, I would probably insta-call, as your image probably doesn’t have BB giving you too much credit, and it doesn’t affect your stack all that much. But with a big stack still left to decide behind you, I think you’ll have better opportunities to get your money in later.

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If the CO calls, my implied odds are ~3-1 (~11K call into ~35K). My image is agg so the CO could be raising with something as low a mid-pair to AK. If I lose, my stack is still in good shape. I voted call.

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Tough decision. Calling isn’t a bad move, you’ve got a healthy stack and a chance to get a lot of chips. If you and the cutoff call, the hand will likely be checked all the way down (if he understands cooperation), which is a good argument for just calling. Raising big isn’t a bad idea either, say to 35k. You send a clear message to a hand like AK or TT that you have a big enough hand to take him out. Either a raise or a call is probably right, though folding (while conservative) is also acceptable. It depends on how you’ve evaluated the skill of the table. If you are the best player there, you can comfortably fold and wait for a better situation. If you feel the other players at the table are better than you, calling or raising is a better move.

Shoving (as the staff suggests) feels a little foolish here. What hands are going to call you? Probably only QQ-AA. Everything else will likely fold. If your raise only gets worse hands to fold and better hands to call, it’s a bad move! Raising about 3x BB’s shove is a better play; it has the same effect as shoving without putting 85% of your stack at risk. A shove here tells me you aren’t comfortable enough with your ability to play after the flop. It’s the move of an amateur.

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I’m surprised on the fold % votes!…i’ve voted raise/call shove because JJ is only loosing to QQ-AA. The CO is aware of his image, and is probably raising with a wider range than that, while the button shove could easily be a low pp or a high A…
calling puts just too easy to CO to act…and in case of his shove after your call, you wont be happy with yourself. We are moving toward the money here…raise and put some pressure on him…you’ll surely make fold drawing hands against you like AQ- AK, and puts it hard to act with 99-TT due pot size. Nice chance to improve your stack towards the final table.

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@Mike

“see what the other big stack does…”
Well, he is obviously going to call, you dont expect him to fold if you flat call, do you? Notice that the all in is by a small margin too small to be a “proper” raise, and hence the CO cannot raise the hand again.

Anyway, I go with the fold on this one, to avoid risks when my stack is this big. But I guess both call and shove are decent moves.

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On raising 3x the BB’s All-in:

I agree that this should be a significant enough raise to fold out the cut-off when you’re ahead. However, that raise would have to be roughly 45k to give the CO less that 2 to 1 on a call — well more than half your stack — A raise to 35k would make the pot appx 59k, and he’d have to call around 25.5k … ideal odds for a race like this.

If you were to raise 45k and the cut-off shoves behind you, you’re obligated to call anyway (your 45k plus the 2 shoves making the pot roughly 128k, leaving you to call 21k more to play)

I think it’s shove or fold, and I vote shove, on the odd chance that you can fold out AK or AQ without risking the villain hitting his overcards.

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How can anybody fold here? This is the fourth best starting hand preflop. Folding is way too passive and imo losing poker. Two schools of thought. Raise and isolate. Or call and have two people to take out BB. Call runs the risk of the cutoff shoving which you would have to make a crying call anyway imo. Just put the pressure on the cutoff and shove. He is probably behind anyway. If you win, which you have good chance of winning, you are in complete control of the table. If you loose, your not out.

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I’m FOlding here since we have a big stack and still can wait for a better spot..

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