
Game type: 109 Freezeout, PokerStars
Stage of tourney: Bubble
Your image: Active
Opponent’s image: Tight
Your hand: A♦6♥
The setup: You’re on the actual bubble in this 109 freezout on PokerStars. You’ve been a little active, but the last hand you showed down was a JJ you double up with an orbit or two ago. You haven’t done much since, and the tournament just got back from break.
The players to your left have been playing pretty tight since the bubble kicked in. You don’t have any particular history with them.
This hand the table folds to you in the CO.
What’s your play?
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Calling and small raising seem out of the question here. Small raising is basically begging to get played back at and can lead to an array of awkward situations.
If you shove. I’d say that you’re getting called by a pretty tight range on average – 99+ and AQ+. Some players will be a bit looser, some will be tighter. That range represents about 5% of hands (you having an ace knocks the number down a bit).
Some very rough math suggests that you’ll get called 15% of the time behind. So, 85% of the time you pick up about 3k. As for the other 15%: When you get called, you’re about a 3-1 dog. The stacks behind you vary, but let’s say you risk about 13k on average. So, you win about 16k a quarter of the time and lose 13k the other for a rounded net loss of 9k.
Win 3k 85% of the time, lose 9k 15% of the time – that’s a pickup of 1k, more or less. It’s not a critical pickup, but it’s certainly enough to justify shoving if you believe your opponents are interested in making the money. Note that if they’re likely to call you with a wider range, this play quickly becomes a loser.
What actually happened: You shoved and the SB called with AJ. You failed to improve and he won the hand.
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I voted raise 2-4x… but as a tourney player I tend to standardize my raises the whole way through and thus a 3x the blind raise from me usually doesn’t look much like a straight steal. In a $100 tourney I’m pretty sure the risk is higher of having people play back at you than it is in the limits I play — which kinda says to me that you should just throw this away, you still got 10+ bets.
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Oops I mis-selected shove. Definately wouldn’t do THAT on the bubble.
I raise 3x here if I think I can get away with it. They would have to be playing very tight for me to do so. It says they are tight in the quiz so I guess It’s the option I shold have selected, but if I thought there was any chance at all they would play back I would fold. The ace here is a bit misleading for me as I wouldn’t want to play a pair of aces if someone called and an ace turned up on the flop.
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I think its clearly a shove. Theres a chance you get called by a dominating hand, but thats a chance you have to take. The chips that are in the pot are worth a lot considering my stack. Raising smaller will very often lead to a tricky situation and I would be left with a very small stack if I then had to fold. Also, theres a chance that a shove will get a better hand folded here. I think you shouldnt play for just bubble money and therefore taking a chance to win whats already in the pot is worth it.
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I just voted fold.
It seems to me that heros stack, and in particular Btn and SB’s stack, would bring you in a whole lot of trouble if you try to bet 3k or so.
It looks like all in or fold to me. A6o is not much of a hand, our stack is a few thausand chips too big for us to be desperate, and we have an active image, making villains call lighter. Hence I just fold for now.
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Hero’s stack is 3rd largest at the table. A6 off is not good enough to shove with. Raising this hand will likely get you into trouble if called, especially by tight villains. Why risk chips at this point? Fold.
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Fold. A/6 off is a terrible hand. Dont cripple yourself or get knocked on the bubble with it.
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Decent stack, weak Ace, active image, on bubble…all these factors add up to an easy fold for me.
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The first thing I do when I read “bubble” in one of these quizzes is count how many smaller stacks there are. In this case, five. No way am I playing anything but aces and kings until this bubble is over or I become the short stack, whichever comes first.
If you shove with this trash ace any of your remaining opponents can easily make you the short stack. That would be a disaster when you have an easy cruise to the money. Raising small and folding to any raise in a blind-stealing effort is much, much better. However folding is the best option of all.
What really happened isn’t helping the staff’s case any.
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if you want to raise, you have to consider the probables shoves of the smaller stacks yet to talk. I just don’t think is my time to risk that much with A6o… I fold
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I to would place a premium on chips here. You have two choices, shove or fold. Raising to 3600 or 4800 is a big chunk of your stack, and you are going to be reraised by the SB, forcing you to fold. I’d muck that garbage and wait for something better.
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just fold. its not worth risking a quarter of your stack with a6 here.. you still have time to find a better spot
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I would raise roughly 3200, which should enough to get anyone to fold on the bubble unless they wake up with a real hand. You would still have plenty of chips left if someone does call or reraise to make it in the money and most of the time nobody wants to mess around near the bubble unless you have a very aggressive big stack in front of you, which in setup of this hand doesn’t look likely. With hi antes and 2800 in the pot odds are with 3 players to act you will only run into a solid hand less than 1/3 of the time. 2/3 you win 2800 -1/3 you lose 3200 = +800 chips on avg for a 25% return. Looks good to me. Http://Donkeyherder.livejournal.com
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You have the largest stack at the table, why wouldn’t you push all-in??? Im shoving.
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Timothy…i think you didn’t look for too long at the image above… 16k < 22k (bb)
what tournaments you play?
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all in
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