May 17, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz

DailyHandQuiz

Game type: 100 Rebuy tournament, PokerStars
Stage of tourney: Down to 2 tables
Your image: Fairly active
Opponent’s image: A little tight
Your hand: K♦K♠

The setup: You’re down to the final two tables of the nightly 100R on PokerStars. You’ve been fairly active but are sitting on a smallish (still playable) stack. Your opponent has had a significant stack for much of the tournament but has been playing a little passively.

This hand you get KK in MP. The table folds to you and you raise to 2.5x. The button calls and the blinds fold. You flop an overpair:

T♥5♥8♠

You lead for 4200 into 7300 and the button calls. The turn isn’t the best news:

J♥.

It’s your action. There’s about 15k in the middle. What’s your play?

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DHQ Staff


What’s the button holding? I think you can probably rule out AA-TT, as all of those hands would have played differently either preflop or on the flop.

When a slightly tighter player flats preflop, that generally equals a range that includes small pairs, medium connectors, and some weaker broadway.

The flop call probably cuts out most of the weaker broadway, although JT, AT and KT are still possibly in the mix. Smaller pairs might peel one card on this flop, but it’s the medium connectors that are most likely to call – lots of pair and runner draw combos.

You’re doing well against those cards, but under no circumstances can you afford to give a free card here. Your opponent is unlikely to bet much of that range, and there are a ton of rivers you’re not happy about seeing.

I’d go ahead and shove. Yes, sometimes you’ll see a flush (although most flush draws probably have a pair or an over with them, so you probably would have heard from them on the flop) and sometimes you’ll see a set or two pair, but most of the time you’ll be comfortably ahead, and you might even motivate a call by a T (with or without a heart).

What actually happened: You shoved and your opponent folded.

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McTowish


Since the pot is worth almost half your stack, your opponent’s implied odds can be rended void very quickly, and it is important for your tournament life NOT to let a free card fall.

97 would be pretty loose, so we can eliminate that as a likely possibility.

All and not, definately not the best card, but an Ace would have been worse. Here I lead for shove.

Most of his drawing hands have 12 to 14 outs, leaving him at about 3 to 1 on the call, or 9k to break even.

If he has a made hand that we can beat, he might read this as a semi-bluff for fold equity with a drawing hand such as Ah x.

If he has us beat here, I think we are committed to this pot in this situation.

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drhoho


I agree with the lead.

The check-call is utterly ridicoulus considering stacksizes and the pot size. If hero puts more chips in, he puts everything in. With this big a pot, trying to trap with a checkraise seems ridicoulus as well. He migth check behind and hit river, and even when the mondey goes in on turn he will probably have enough outs to make en +EV very marginal.

So I think this is either shove (a smaller bet would commit you leaving implied odds for draws) or check/fold. And though the turn is nasty in case he has 7 9, hearts or JT, I think check/folding an overpair with this stack and this pot is way too weak.

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Jeroentje


Leave the table….lost hand……search another hobby…..

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Rhycar


Very difficult spot. His flop call could easily indicate a flush draw or slowplaying bottom or middle set (probably not TT, because he would usually raise pre-flop). It could also represent something like A10 or even AK or AQ hoping to pick off a bluff.

The Jh really sucks. J10 now beats you as does any flush draw. In addition, it could open up a big draw for your opponent (something like KQ with one heart).

However, after saying all this, I think you still have to lead. You’ve shown big strength so far, and that third heart could well induce him to fold. It’s a great chance to pad your stack and keep your run going. It’s definitely all (shove) or nothing (check-fold), but I shove here and cross my fingers he doesn’t have two hearts.

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OnlinePokerIncome.com


Not much of a quiz. Standard shove with a smallish stack.

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DONKEYHERDER


I guess I’m a bit off here, but I don’t like the smallish bet on this dangerous flop. With 7300 in the pot and your stack only has about 17k if you bet and get raised your probably calling allin anyways and this pot is not one which you can afford to lose. Why not just overshove and take the 7300 down and you’ll probably still get someone who paired 10′s anyways while cutting the risk someone draws out on you? If you bet and only get a call that tells me he’s on a draw or a bigger hand than KK. That’s why I don’t like the 4300 bet is so small alot of hands might take one off and see what happens on the turn.
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Matt


I think this flop was played terribly and other than the lack of an ace it is a fairly scary board given his range.

Why give your opponent over 2.7 to 1 odds on that flop when you have just a pair? If medium suited connectors are in his range, you are giving him the right price to call flush and/or straight draws. I would bet at least the pot on the flop, either forcing a mistake or taking it down right there. If he comes over the top, you’ve got a tough decision but that’s poker.

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_CityBorn_


I agree with not liking the weak flop lead. Youre likely to get called and have no idea where you stand (in what is shaping up to be an all in hand). I wouldve led for something like 6200. If you bet about that on the flop, a turn all in takes it down, and makes a lot more sense for a bigger pot. But given the situation, Im leading again. Not all in though, Probably 12k or so. Call a raise from villain if he shoves, but the 12k lead gives me a chance to get away if he calls the turn and a 9 or heart drops on the river. Id rather have a small stack then no stack if disaster strikes. I check fold to a 9 or heart river, check call anything else.

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Sunshine


Not liking the flop play mostly. I was leaning between check-call and check-fold in the situation I’ve created though. If I’m gonna shove, I’d almost rather be playing something like AK with the ace of hearts.

Maybe it’s just the Omaha player in me that says “ooh look bad card” and instantly heads to passive mode; however, let’s face it, you could find a better spot if need be — you’ve still got 20 bets behind you, and there are players in worse position.

Still would be nice to know the average stack, just in case it’s a wide enough gap between my stack and average to justify playing this all-in no matter what…

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teddy


tough situation but you gotta lead out here.. id probably bet about half the pot and pray he doesnt put me all in

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From Finland


Shit card, but your stack is too small.

All-in shove, hope that he calls thinking you have an A-high flush draw.

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Loki


If you do fold here, your M=8.7 which isn’t desperation mode, but also isn’t far from it. I would have overbet the flop and prepared to shove if necessary.
You could double 20k from the chips in the middle and at least by shoving your opponent can’t bluff you out. The shove will therefore knock out hands that don’t beat you and you might get called by an AJ type hand. Nasty turn, but seems like you have to try to take it down.

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