
Game type: 530 buy in no limit tournament, PokerStars
Stage of tourney: Mid stages
Your image: TAG
Opponent’s image: No strong read
Your hand: T♥T♣
The setup: You’ve built a decent stack in this bigger buy in tournament on PokerStars when the following hand comes up. You get TT UTG and raise to 1156. The table folds to the button, who makes a pretty small three bet to 2000 total. You call and flop bad:
A♦8♦Q♣
You check and your opponent checks behind. The turn:
A♣
You check, and to your surprise your opponent checks again. You river a boat:
T♣
It’s your action. There’s 4700 in the middle. What’s your play?
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With no read on an opponent, I’d default to assuming that the button three bet of your UTG raise indicates a pretty strong range. If you buy that line of thinking, opponent is representing a monster by checking twice in position. In that case, you should check (and call) to keep the pot reasonable.
If your opponent is on a weak hand, check-calling is still probably the best play. Very few hands weaker than yours are going to call here (maybe KK or KQ), but some will bet your check (like 99). Your opponent will also bet the check with all trip aces (altho they will have played the hand strangely to have AAA here), so you don’t lose value from that part of his range by checking and calling.
What actually happened: You checked and your opponent bet 2500. You called and they showed KJo for a rivered straight.
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Why not three bet with a trouble offsuit hand?! I voted check call as opponent may have checked AQ or QQ twice and also to catch a bluff.
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The flop check may be a trap but the turn check smells real weakness. If he has JJ or KK he’ll probably check the river too but may call a reasonable bet…of he has AK he may bet the river but may call an even bigger bet of ours…I like the lead because he may be afraid that WE are trapping…so he can’t raise without a bigger boat…so if he raises we can fold without regrets…I like the lead…
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This test is wrong.. I have a Tc in my hands and another Tc rivers?
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The only way youre making money here is if villain made a straight or flush on the river. Or if a weaker hand wants to take a stab at it after you checked 3 times in a row. Check raise to get anything you can get out of this one. Only hand you really have to worry about is QQ and chances are against it. I think staff tends to figure players for being more solid then they generally are online. This 3 bet in position could have come from suited connectors, pocket pairs, strong ace or king. People play position, they make moves…he doesnt have to have premium holdings to raise the one player in while in position.
Oh, just noticed Christiano is right. 10c is in my hand and on the board. Not sure if a flush is possible. Im hoping it is though.
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misdeal
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The misdeal comments are actually very important. Did the 10c come on the river, or was it in my hand? If I’m actually holding 10s and the 10c came on the river, I’m leading out and hoping he caught a straight or a flush.
You’re only really scared of QQ or the unlikely AQ. A8 is extremly unlikely for a reraise pre-flop. If I had QQ, I would check the flop hoping to catch a bluff. But I would almost certainly bet the turn. The most likely hand is AK-A10, and trip aces would either raise or call my bet on the turn and river. Checking the turn indicates your opponent has missed completely. I would put him on KK or JJ, in which the only way you will make money is a value bet (because he probably won’t make a stab at it). I lead out for 1,800-2,000 and see what happens.
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I’ve voted to lead, because the 2 checks are more likely a sign of weakness than other thing.
If he is holing an A..I expect him to bet the flop to defend against flush projects (even AQ should be betting I think), after the 2nd check I put him on a medium pair from 8′s to J’s…not KK (sure bet on the turn)… so I really believe that he wont bet the river, unless he hits something, in which case I hope he raises my lead of about 2k.
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3 hands can beat you. If the v had AA, believe he would have bet the flop with 2 dims and cards in the playing zone. AQ is a possibility, A10 less likely. Have to lead here for about $2K. Not sure if there is a flush on board or I have 10c?
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What would an Ace, flush or straight call?
Harrington notes that giving up more than 1/2 your remaining stack by calling a big bet on the river is a major psychological barriar in the opponent. I’d make it 3500-4000.
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McTowish, that makes sense if you want to AVOID a call. Here you don’t, you want to make a call. The bigger bet has the disadvantage of possibly scaring off your opponent. The smaller bet has your opponent saying, “Oh well, if I call and I’m wrong, I only lose 15-20% of my stack.” Since you believe you’re ahead, you have to make a bet you think will get called.
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Is it just me or is everyone too scared of a bigger hand?
Without a read on the opponent, I’m assuming that two checks indicate weakness, not strength. I bet 3K, and I’m folding if I get raised.
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Aren’t we all forgetting about one thing? Our own image after checking twice. That looks weak to the opponent, who seems to me like they want to check this hand down. I do not necessarily suspect a monster here. Probably a medium pocket pair which they will check behind us and be happy with the pot.
So I’m leading for about 3/4 of the pot here and expect a call because our bet screams river bluff. If he raises that spells a backdoor flush or straight, which explains the turn check (wanting a free shot at making the hand). In that case I am shoving and breaking him.
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bet 1/3 of the pot 1700 for a feeler bet on the rvr
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i lead about 2400 that leaves me with a little less than 12000 so i have ability to fold to big over bet.
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Interesting hand, but could never happen
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