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The first raise here makes your pair of tens a bit weaker than they would be if you were only playing against shorty. Just because he’s open shoved twice doesn’t mean that he’s going to do that against a raise with a weak hand.

I think this is a pretty close call, but I’m going to fold here. I think I’m drawing the line at jacks.

What actually happened: You folded, the BB shoved and the first raiser folded. The short stack’s AK made a straight to beat the BB’s queens.

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Easy fold.

Shortstack has been openpushing a lot, but that was pushing with fold equity. A 9 BB stack does not have FE in a 3-bet-shove, so he must have a good hand. In best case you are in a coinflip, and you have nothing invested yet. Silly to risk half your stack here.

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i fold here.
i don’t think ss push so wide here if there is a 3x before. agree with staff, here i shove jj+ and AKo

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Who were the 51% that said all in here??? Why in the world would you consider that at this stage, with 3 people to act behind you? 1010 is no good here, no good.

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I would fold. There are still three live players behind me who have yet to act. Case and point the BB having QQ.

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easy fold

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All in. Shortstack’s pushing with A9+, KQ, and any pair. The standard raise could be anything and he’ll likely fold to an all in from us. Only thing you have to worry about is the players behind waking up with a monster, but given the 3 players already clearly holding top cards, its pretty unlikely. I predict something like TT vs shortstack A/Q with some of his outs in the muck.

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@ _CityBorn_

I am sure that you are a way better player than I, but am I completely wrong when I assume that the first raise, readless, must indicate some kind of hand when coming from an early middle position?

Perhaps I am the fish for playing tigth when I am not first in, but if I weas in villains spot my range would be more like AQ+, 99+, perhaps with AJ and 77-88 included depending on initial raisers image.

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Well the problem here isn’t the short stack. He’s just pushing, and tens are more than good enough to call him. The problem here is the player to his right. Knowing the short stack had pushed twice, he still made a solid raise, which indicates some strength. Now granted, this is a small-to-mid stakes online tourney, which means he could be asleep at the switch. But I would assign him a range of hands of A-10s or higher.

Calling here is the worst option. You don’t want an ace-small tagging along with you. You want to be heads-up against the short stack, or fold. Tens are good enough here. The table will realize you’re standing up to this maniac, and probably bow out (unless there’s a monster behind you). On balance, I shove all-in.

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I would’ve pushed all-in

The result was AK made a straight which means a 10 had to hit the board. I’m interested to see if the board was paired…maybe pushing with the 10′s would’ve knocked them both out!

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Tipz Reply:
November 22nd, 2011 at 11:40 am

The BB had Qs, so he would have hit his set, meaning the board did not pair.

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@Pat

AK straightening out also means a Q hit so either way your crushed

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Lay it down!
SB has odds to call, should he have anything, and all-ins void his position. Then of course, we have the raiser who is in the same boat as us, and could very likely make the all in call with 2 in already.
Plus, we are just under the average stack, but have enough life to last a few more hands before we need to think about making a move. I like 10s straight up, but you still have to wonder about the raiser too. Could easily be up against 4 over cards against the raiser and the short stack, and I don’t like my 10s in that fight.
Lay it down, and get it in at a better spot.

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Fold or All-In. This is a tournament and there is NOTHING wrong with shoving here. We are becoming a short stack ourselves, rather quickly I might add, and we have to pick a spot like this to shove and get lucky anyway. Nothing wrong with this one.

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@drhoho

I would never claim to be better, we’ve never played and your comments generally seem sensible.

Our ranges assigned to shortstack actually seem fairly close if you include your “possibilities”

@ShortStackAttack

The QQ was an unlikely hand for the blind to wake up with, I think we have to base our play here on the action in front as there are only 2 players behind, and of course, account for the possibility of the blinds waking up with a monster, but also figure that it is a fairly slim chance given there are several nice hands already dealt. If the blinds have anything less then QQ+ or AK and we shove…with all the action in front, theyre dropping it. Some might even drop AK. I would also say the same for the initial raiser…he might make the call with a slightly more open range then the blinds…99+, AQ+…which Id say is only about half of his initial raising range, and we’re still fine against a good amount of that calling range. He would need JJ+ for us to be in a bad spot here.

@Sted Ruckus

No one has “odds to call” a $2750 shove over a raise and all in with $75 invested from the small blind. He would need a monster to even think about getting involved in this mess.

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The blind having QQ is just unfortunate. In a typical situation both blinds would fold here. Even so, this is an easy fold. Both the original raiser and the shover are likely to have two overs at the least.

It’s true that hero is a shortstack here as well, but there will be a better place to shove. Considering what lots of people call shoves with in these tourneys, even shoving with Ax where x > T is probably better than shoving with TT.

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The BB having queens should not be considered, it was just unlucky. The first raiser folded as expected so if we shove we are probably coinflip with a lot of dead money in the pot. I like my chances and I shove.

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All-in to isolate if possible.

SS’s range is too wide, too many possibility to give up against him, you can easily be a 3 to 1 favorite. D and the players left to act are our concern, but only 4 hands have you in trouble, while without a read, a conservative player can 3 bet with open with 99, KQs, AJs, AQ, AK, most of which are more likely statistically than a pocket pair. Unless he’s made a mistake, I’d expect to be a slight favorite coinflipping for your tournament life and about 2 to 1 on your money.

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*as well as AA, KK, QQ, JJ, a conservative player can 3 bet with open with 99, KQs, AJs, AQ, AK, all of which you can beat and aren’t most of which are more likely statistically than a pocket pair.

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