Archive pick: Kings with an ace on the flop, in position, nl cash

What we said then… The hands that the SB would be likely to three bet you with preflop that include an ace are probably AA, AK, AQ and maybe ATs . Given their image, it’s probably just AQ and up. Since you hold two kings, that cuts down on the possible AK combinations. Your opponent would probably also three bet with TT and the occasional lower pair or suited broadway hand. That puts it pretty close in terms of ace hands and non-ace hands.

What if you bet? If you bet here and your opponent shoves, you’re close to committed to call - if you make it 130 and they shove for 70 more, you’re calling 70 to win 480, which is just about the right price to call against a paired ace. You’ll also rarely get a worse hand to call. Having the K of diamonds makes it pretty unlikely that your opponent is on a flush draw. With all that in mind, I think the right play is to check and then bet (or call) the turn, or maybe even check twice and bet the river, hoping to extract more value from the pair hands you’re beating, and possibly even saving a couple bucks against a scared AQ.

What actually happened: You checked behind and the turn bricked. Your opponent bet $96 on the turn and you called. The river bricked and you checked down. They showed tens and you won the pot.

i check behind him and call a bet on scary turn (or bet 2/3 pot)

His three bets sounds like a pocket pair (TT to QQ), not AK that generally is not a re-re-raise hand out of position. Or he has a set of aces or he is scared from the ace. I bet and expect him to fold.

agree with kaimano except that as long as you know you are ahead there is no need to make him fold. instead the flopcheck, turncall, rivervaluebet seems best to extract extra money without a real threat of being outdrawn.

His call of my rr indicates probably A-10, AJ, AQ, or medium pair. I’ll check and call bricks on the turn and riv.

i agree with kaimano - i put on JJ or QQ. The only hand i’m realistically afraid of there is 99, but given opponent’s image, i think you can rule it out. AA is a slight possibility, but given preflop action i would have expected his shove to my rrr

Check because you’re likely miles ahead, and there’s value extraction ahead…

Gotta love all the geniuses who rule out an ace hand from a tight 3-bettor. Please….

You have to be very concerned here. I bet now to find out where Im at, if hes got the ace I expect a check-raise. If not I expect a fold. Checking here then calling bets on 4th and 5th streets means YOU’RE the one getting value “extracted” if he has it, or letting him take free draws to his couple of outs if he’s holding the under pair.

Nicely said CityBorn. The one card you don’t want to see is on the flop. Don’t you guys want to see where you’re at now…when you have position? A continuation bet is a must. You can’t let one scare card make you freeze up or you’re putting the ball in his court. I can’t tell you how many hands I’ve won with JJ, QQ, KK, when an overcard has hit just my having the balls to bet. If they call or raise then you’re prob in trouble.

I c-bet here to see where I am at.

With City and Samurai. With pocket Ks, last thing I want to see is an A on the flop. Half pot to 2/3 pot bet is very likely to reveal his hand. And expecting to extract value after the flop with no more than a pair is a pretty questionable move, especially with flush draw out there.

defiently bet to c where im at

Does anyone else think this has been terribly played right from the word go???

Preflop - First raise was too cheap. Then only making it $77 after the three bet was awful.

Flop - Checking??? Are you serious. Could it be possible the villian could be holding any range between 99-QQ??? Lead out here for any amount and see where you are. Yes if he reraises you all in, you have a tough decision - but more often then not you will see them muck.

Turn - Flat call? A minimum reraise at the very least to see if he’s honest.

River - Check it down?!?!? You have got to be Sh**ting me.

Go find a gun and shoot yourself.

I want to know where anonymous plays. That he can speak the answer with such certainty tells me that none in his game are deceitful, tricky, nor inexperienced or stupid. I want to play with them.

LOL at anonymous. First raise size is totally standard - is raising to 8 or 10 really going to make any difference if he has a decent pair or a big ace? Re-raise size is also totally standard.

Min-raising an underpair in a re-raised pot on turn? I can’t see how that’s a good idea.

Checking behind is completely fine here. Your hand has deteriorated and you are NOT aiming to get all-in on this board. The check behind induces the turn bet from worse hands like underpairs.

I agree with checking the flop. I have no problem shortening the betting in this situation and I doubt a tight SB is going to bluff hard into the turn if HE doesn’t have an A and I’ve been a tricky aggressive player. Keep this pot as small as you can unless he also checks the turn and then bet for value on the river.

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@ Mary
“none in his game are deceitful, tricky, nor inexperienced or stupid.”

Well lets walk on egg-shells every hand then. Who knows, the villian might be holding 93off… or maybe T8diamonds….. damn, I better fold on this flop!!!

@ Adam
“The check behind induces the turn bet from worse hands like underpairs.”

Yes, and also allows the villian to catch his 3rd diamond or even bottom two pair. Well done.

Well said Adam. Lol Anonymous - Bottom 2 pair?????- what 99 33, QQ TT? Villain isnt going to have diamonds since the ace is on the board and the king is in your hand.
Look at the action - A 3 bet from the tightish villain then calling a 4 bet means big pair or AK not AQ AJ AT…also TT or JJ should not really be calling a 4 bet. I would put him on QQ, any hand thats ahead of you he would likely bet because of the possible flush draw which are unlikely because of the action but possible given your very aggressive image.
A normal flop bet of $130 from you on the flop means virtually your entire stack is in the pot so you may as well just push. If you do push or bet you are going to fold out any none ace hands. Much better to check behind to induce a turn or river bet from hands you are beating. Call any bets on the turn or river as actually happened.