Cash, NL / Full

Pair and draw out of position on the turn, nl cash

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Game type: 25/50 full ring cash, PokerStars
Your image: Pretty tight
Opponent’s image: TAG, leaning tight
Your hand: 9♣8♣

The setup: This game is playing pretty tight except for one fish who is bleeding chips (Player B). This hand, UTG folds and the fish makes it 3x. You call, the CO calls and the BB calls. You flop pretty strong:

3♣T♣9♥

It checks to you and you take a stab - $450 into $625. The CO calls and the other two fold. The turn doesn’t help:

5♦

What’s your play?

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9 COMMENTS  (Jump to comment form)

DHQ Staff
6.26.08 / 9pm

I think there’s a good chance you’re ahead here, and you probably have decent equity when you’re not. That said, it would still be nice to win this pot uncontested.

Leading isn’t a bad idea - you have a tight image and your bet should earn some respect. There are a number of weaker draws that might feel compelled to give up, and even some stronger pairs than yours would have to at least consider folding if you fire again. The only drag with leading is you’ll be getting an awkward price (about 3-1) if you lead around pot and get raised. If all of your outs are good, you’re ok to call, but you have to wonder if they all are…

The check raise would work a little better if you were slightly deeper and if you felt more confident that your opponent would bet wide. I think most of the hands they have in this spot are happy to take a free card or play pot control.

I say take advantage of your image and lead strong.

What actually happened: You bet 1250 and the CO folded.

kaimano
6.27.08 / 1am

He called preflop and called again with two clubs and a possible straight draw. I think he’s using position to steal this pot. Lead 2/3 of the pot. If he calls I’m done if I don’t hit my flush…but I think I’ve very good fold equity…

Adam
6.27.08 / 8am

I think I’d usually bet out, because getting raised is certainly not a disaster with this hand. Without the strong draw, check-call becomes more reasonable. I don’t like checking b/c if he checks behind and an overcard comes on the river, you’re probably in trouble; even if you make your flush on the river, he’s probably not paying much anyway.

_CityBorn_
6.27.08 / 9am

I agree with Adam about the implied odds. Lead to disguise that, and keep him off balance. Unless he has a strong hand, he’ll fold. If he calls, you have a bunch of outs anyway, but check fold the river if you miss. I have a feeling he would check behind on the river though, giving you a chance to win out against a busted draw.

Chad Gerson
6.27.08 / 10am

Gotta try to make the villain go away. Lead.

samo2
6.27.08 / 10am

I would lead. Checking leaves you in the dark as to where you stand. If the villain has a good 10 (A or K), or an overpair he/she would have raised on the flop with that board. Less likely they have 9-10 since you have a 9, so you are probably ahead. Villain likely has two overcards.

frank
6.28.08 / 12pm

Gotta lead. With a tight image a check looks weak and invites a big bet to push you out. With the overcard showing it’s going to be a tough call.

geno
6.29.08 / 4pm

bet big

poker noob
6.30.08 / 2pm

Lead strong. I’m fairly confident that I am ahead and I peg him on a draw with potential straight and/or overcards or a higher flush draw (unlikely, but possible). I’d rather move him out before the river complicates matters. If he calls, then I go to the river ahead.

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