Set on turn facing a small raise, no limit cash

This really feels like a probe raise from a medium-strength hand that’s also hoping to buy a river check-down. I’d expect to see top or second pair or maybe even a weak pair and flush draw.

If you shove, all those hands will probably fold. You also have great equity against that range. Calling gets the pot close to $900, and will force the button to call a reasonably sized bet on the river with a pretty wide range.

I like the call and leading the river, but check-calling most hearts.

What actually happened: You shoved and the button folded.

staff’s analysis, albeit good.. isn’t what i chose.. i shoved and the button folded

i suppose i’m paranoid about hands like this — we’re heads up, flush draw falls in his range.. if he wants to get there, make him pay now

ultimately it sucks if he calls, shows a flush draw and you lose.. but i’m much more likely to put it in now and make him pay for it than i am to continue slowplaying on a board that now has both a straight draw and a flush draw on it

I agree with sunshine.

Though a min raise can build the pot, whereas a shove may induce a fold, there is now straight draws as well as the flush draw.

I think your shove gets called enough to make it profitable but with a better read on your opponent (i.e. likely to stick around with TPTK, but doesnt like to stack off) then a small raise may be the better play.

I put him on KQ, I shove.

Agreed with sunshine a flush draw or KQ are both rasonable and the pot is already large enougth (63BB) so that i want to avoid a tought decision if a Q, K or heart rivers (too many outs) and a busted flush might not call a bet by the river anyway. A small raise is no good either, for he will be forced to call on a flush draw, so pushing seems like the best option.

lol “put him on KQ” - like you have enough info to narrow his range to two cards. If you have some ninja read, please share how you can narrow his range so much.

Why wouldn’t you raise the flop in a 4 way with a flush draw? By flatting you give everyone a cheap turn. And why are you now you are worried about the flush on the turn when you weren’t on the flop?

Raise flop for value and protection. As played I think a shove is best.

Theres plenty in the pot, dont get cute and potentially lose your stack trying to squeeze a couple of extra bucks out of him. If he wants to draw, make him pay, otherwise take a nice pot down and take your woman out to a nice dinner.

yep

I’m pushing now and making him pay to draw as well. Someone else mentioned there now being a straight draw on board makes it more important to make him pay to draw…I don’t see how that matters much in our decision, because if he has J10 of hearts there is no way in hell hes folding to a shove anyway IMO. If you shove now you probably get him off weak flush draws and top pair , but I don’t see you getting him off a big combo draw, which is one of the most likely holdings for him to have when you get called. As was already stated, with a better read on our opponent we could perhaps play this more profitably…but with no read the shove is best.

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For the same reasons as everyone but the staff.

This is cash, not a tournament. You want to extract value from this situation, and in order to due so, you may risk being outdrawn. A substantial part of your opponent’s range is drawing dead, however, and since you decided to fake a blocker bet, you should continue on this line and flat call. I would then tend to check-raise a safe river and check-call a scare river. Shoving is -EV given the strength of your hand.

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I’m with Menlo, but I’m min raising to see if I can get a bit more in the pot. In a tourney, I push to protect. Here, I think I can eliminate KK and QQ in his range, so I’m a 6-1 favorite going to the river. I’ll take these odds every time. Thing is, I don’t put him on a flush draw. I have him with 99-JJ. 4x bb looks to be a middle pair trying to get rid of draws or strong draw trying to take down pot of limpers. Post flop looks like info bet, trying to see who might have outflopped (re-raise) or who is working draw. Good call here to show draw and disguise hand strength. Turn looks like a brick for the flush draw, so good weak lead at pot. The re-raise is pretty weak, looking like it’s designed for info or build pot against a draw. Shoving here is going to reveal hand strength too early. I like min raise because he has to call and if he has an overpair, he might even shove. If a simple call, I’ll play the river based on the card.

I actually very much like the way the hero played this hand until the shove. He disguised his hand very well and is in great position to get even more out of the villain. The shove seems more like a fear play, though. Unless he has KK or QQ, hero is a 6-1 favorite to win against anything else. In a cash game, you have to milk your odds.

Time to end it. You shove to get everybody off their draws, and hope to hell somebody’s made their 2 pair…

I think im raising his flop bet here, but…

as played, I agree that the call on the turn is the best play. I don’t think he’s re-raising so little with a flush draw, as it leaves him with little fold equity from us. I think he has a dry Q or a strong 9, and we can get value from him on the river. If he does happen to have KQ, then the money is most likely going in on the river anyway.

If he has a Q, we have 100% equity in the hand, if he has a FD, we have 80% equity. In the very worst scenario (him having a FD…which is very unlikely), we’re giving up ~$114 in equity by calling, but getting enough value from dry Qs and 9s to make up for that by a mile.

I just see little purpose in re-raising when you most likely have the dude drawing dead, or at best a 5.5 to 1 underdog, and when the chips are going in on the river anyway if he does happen to have KQ.

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there’s another point beside the equity. If we shove and he folds we haven’t shown our cards. It means the our real blocker bets will have much more respect. This is a very useful pattern to exploit.

i like everybody’s opinion here but the staff… if you just call and he hits the river youre gonna want to put your head through the computer screen for not pushing on the turn

The other problem is since you are representing a draw with a blocking bet, if a card comes on the river that would fulfill those draws and doesn’t hit him, he’s less likely to pay your set, but you may be paying him. Lots of cards that can kill action on the river: A, 3, 7, heart, around 18/46 cards (if he doesn’t have any of them) that kills your action.

Small reraise of a reraise sends a message I would interpret as one of the following:
1) huh?
2) Wow he’s strong
3) (rarely) he just wants me to think he’s strong, but he isn’t really.

For disciplined opponents
1. huh=check on river.
2. Wow he’s strong=check on river
3. If he’s weak, he won’t pay; if he’s strong, he will break me. t/f check.

In other words, if you small RR, and he calls, and then you check the river, you’ve given him a reason to check also, unless he hits the river, then he’ll raise behind and you’ll pay him well (are you really willing to fold your set?).