Tens facing two raises preflop, no limit turbo SNG

UTG has a wide range, but UTG 1 shouldn’t be playing that loose here. Sure, he has fold vig, but not a ton and he’s still very early to act.

Also consider that UTG will be getting better than 2-1 on the call if you call. They have a few chips to gamble with, which seems likely to elicit some calls with broadway hands that you’re flipping with and fewer calls from underpairs.

This feels a little borderline to me, but it is a turbo and people do wacky stuff all of the time. I know that’s not the best logic, but I think it’s enough to tip this to a call.

What actually happened You folded and the table folded behind to UTG, who called. UTG showed qh 9h and UTG 1 showed A9o. A9 won the pot.

In a turbo SnG why would you do anything other than click all-in as fast as humanly possible?

Theres only one raise unlike the title suggests, but UTG+1 allin range with a limper behind could pretty much be any ace, any low pair and any two broadways. Your tens do pretty well against that. Ive found in this sort of tournament when people have QQ or possibly JJ+ a small range to encourage action or even a limp-re-raise play is much more normal than a shove.

UTG is the big stack and is likely hoping to see a cheap flop with marginal cards.

*QQ or possibly JJ+ a small RAISE (not range)

I’ve an average stack and if I think I’m an “above-than-average” player I don’t want to coinflip my tournament. I fold.

I fold my tens without hesitation.

Would my answer be different if i had nines?

Hmmmm,well…,ffff.I think not,still a fold.

given UTG+1 made this play with A9 and UTG called off with Q9, the only thing you can conclude here is that your read on your opponents image as “pretty standard” is a costly mistake. You need a better read to call, but these players must have been making some pretty goofy plays before, so you should have picked up on it and widened your calling range.

To me, I would be calling that as soon as it came around to me. There is no telling how long it will be before you see a playable hand and with the blind structure the way it is. You absolutely have to take anything you can get. It sucks to have to coinflip your tournament but if you hit youre sittin pretty to make the final table. Insta call for me. nines i would probably do the same thing though i might hesitate a bit more. If this werent a turbo there is no way im calling here.

This is why I dont play turbos

Easy call. I’m in the middle of a turbo tournament where an average stack is no more than about 13x big blind and about to be no more than 10x. As the average and short stacks try to stay in front of the blinds, all ins are going to get pretty common, especially with stuff like low pocket pairs and A rags. Play will continue like this until the field is down to about 12 players. I need to get a stack going so I can be a bit more selective, but right now, I can’t afford to be. I might get busted, but I’m no position to play this tight. At a normal table, I might lay this down, but in turbo, easy call. If I lose, I lose. But playing overly tight with an average or short stack at this stage will get you busted for sure.

What’s amazing is that people are critizing the initial raiser for playing A9o. He pushed out the best hand by a mile through simple aggression and got a doofus to double him up. Not great poker, but at least he picked his spot and it worked. Now, he has a bit breathing room.

They are both obv spewtards. If they are both solid it’s an ez fold. I dk if ’standard’ here is supposed to mean avg donk, or decent ABC player. If it’s the latter, the image is obv way off. LOL at UTG+1s range being any ace unless he is a donkey, which he is, but not by the info given.

I fold. A SnG is all about getting ITM.

Villain 2 is not desperat either, he must have a decent hand. I am surprised he did the shove with A9 with so many to act after him. I would assume that something like AJ+, 88+ is a more likely range for him. And I dont take a flip for an above average stack in a SnG.

Perhaps the turbo structure makes my choice questionable. To that question _CityBorn_ had a great point. I agree.

I’m calling here for one reason and one reason only…Turbo…

You’re already below M-10, and the blinds are going up quick. This guy probably has a decent hand, but not necessarily a great one. He’s UTG +1 and looking to flex what muscle he can…while he can. This is exactly the kind of hand you need to make a move with in these games. That’s why I’m not a big fan of the quick blind structures…

And yes, I’m calling with 9’s too…

I can’t hit the call button quickly enough. In a typical turbo, you see this a bunch. The only things I might see that I don’t like are JJ and maybe QQ. Anything bigger probably doesn’t push. I’ll race to build my stack at this point of the turbo.