Low two pair on the turn, high stakes no limit cash

Game type: 200/400 No limit cash, Full Tilt Poker
Your image: LAG
Opponent’s image: Well-known online pro
Your hand: T♠6♠
This hand took place between the guru 11 and present. You’ll be standing in for present. Thanks to High Stakes Report for the hand history
The setup: You’re a buy in up so far in this match and you have a very loose image so far. This hand you make it 3x to go and your opponent makes it $4200 total. You call and flop:
6♣K♣J♠
He leads for $6,000 into $8,400 and you call. You turn two pair: T♣.
He checks and you bet $12,800 into 24k. Guru check raises you all in for just about 32k total.
What’s your play?
6.18.08 / 12am
I would call because of the price im getting.
Ive seen a lot of hand histories from high stakes cash and most of the players can push with top pair, especially if theyve 3-bet pre-flop.
6.18.08 / 4am
I always have, and still fail to comprehend high stakes cash games, where calling a reraise with T6 is considered good play, then floating the flop when you hit bottom pair with no draws.. I mean, is this standard for the pro’s? How can they be winning players if they opt to play like this all the time?
6.18.08 / 6am
i voted fold. Despite the tempting price, Im feeling like a huge dog here. A third club just hit and theres every kind of broadway imaginable. If he doesnt have a straight or flush, he could easily just have a higher 2 pair. IF were lucky enough to be ahead, were at least up againt a pair with a straight and flush draw….This one’s just not worth it. Theres no way he’s check raising a bluff here.
@ se7en. i play a lot of heads up. as far as im concerned hero’s play is fine. heads up is a game of psychology (and luck)….any two cards can win, you just have to play them right.
6.18.08 / 8am
I fold.
Staff is spot on - if we are ahead it is not by a huge margin and if we’re behind we’re fading to 4 outs. I’d put villain either on a made hand which already beats us or on a medium strength hand with a big draw. Ac plus any Q, K, J or T are possible. Plus KJ and even flopped trips. Even against KQc we have to dodge half a deck (total of 22 outs if I am not mistaken) and this is certainly not even the top end of villains range.
6.18.08 / 9am
Well Se7en, to be fair, this is heads-up. Whole different ball game. At a full ring, you would likely not play this way, but flopping a pair against an aggressive opponent is often worth a call.
6.18.08 / 12pm
If you are going to fold here when you hit your card then why are you calling on the flop. Two pair heads-up, if you are folding you should not be playing. sure he could have the sr8t, but top pair and the draw is just as likely as well as just the draw. MUB is not a good way to play heads up. Most hands are won with two pair. You can’t fold even if the price were bad.
6.18.08 / 1pm
I voted call because the price is right and I’d have a really hard time walking away from two pair in HU.
But what a horrible call after the flop. At this point, I’m just gambling that the villain is trying to steal. I’m in pretty bad shape with flush and straight draws sitting out there and two over cards. And one of the cards that improves my hand is an absolute horror show, the ten of clubs, as it complets straight and flush draws. The only hand I beat after the flop is A or Q high. I’m cool with the raise since pre-flop as aggression works in HU, but once that scary looking flop comes down, I gotta get out
6.18.08 / 5pm
I WOULD RAISE HIM A MILLION DOLLARS.
6.18.08 / 8pm
LV_Flop_lag,
The reason why your folding here and not on the flop is because you’re obviously getting more information on the turn, and…well, there’s another card on the board that makes straights and flushes. I don’t consider a Tc “my card”.
I wouldn’t anticipate someone checking, OOP with this huge of a hand and on this draw heavy board without a monster. Pitch it.
6.19.08 / 2am
I put him on AK with the ace of club. I can’t lay down two pairs with 3:1 odds. I call.
6.29.08 / 10am
His flop lead doesnt look like a flush draw unless he has a very good draw like QT of clubs, he will most likely get called if he has a flush/straight draw instead of raised and then he is out of position on the turn if he misses so primary draws are out.
It looks like he doesnt want draws to draw cheaply knows that you would most likely reraise primary draws in position.
the turn CRAI looks like that card improved his hand, so the range im putting him on is: KQ/KQc/KJc/AcK/(AcQx)/AcJ/AJc/TT/JJ/KK/QQ/(KT)/AcT/QJ/QT/..
And against that range youre a slight underdog but given the price youre getting, this is a close call

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6.17.08 / 6pm
3-1 is a compelling price, but I think this is one of those situations where you’re drawing nearly dead when you’re behind and when you are ahead, you’re not a huge favorite.
I’d assume your opponent is more than aware of the price he’s offering you, further tightening his range. The fact that you’re LAGish makes it even more likely that he’d check his strong hands, having confidence in your propensity to bet a large part of the time.
I like the fold.
What actually happened: present called and guru showed Kh Qh for a pair and draw. The river was the Ac, making guru a straight.