Quads on the river first to act, no limit cash

Game type: 5/10 No Limit Cash, PokerStars
Your image: A little aggressive but showing down strong
Opponent’s image: Has been fairly quiet
Your hand: 3♥3♠
The setup: You’ve been playing a pretty fast game so far, but you’ve also been showing down strong. This hand, 3 players fold, a player raises to 3x, you call, the CO calls, the button and SB fold and the BB calls. You flop a set:
A♠T♦3♣
The BB and the PFR check. You bet $60 into $120. The CO calls, the BB folds and the PFR calls. You turn quads: 3♦.
PFR checks and you bet $110 into $305. The CO calls and the PFR folds. River: Q♠.
What’s your play?
5.30.08 / 12am
If he has an ace he’ll pay a small bet but won’t call a large one or raise. If he has two pair (AT, AQ) he’ll bet and call a raise. If he has nothing he’ll not bet thinking we’re calling him with an ace in our hand. To maximize return I like a bet of 1/3rd of the pot. I’ll be called by weak aces, I’ll be raise by two pair and I may induce a bluff-raise.
5.30.08 / 12am
if you’re showing down very strong you can take advantage of that by overbetting the pot, maybe looking like you’re bluffing. If he has an A i think he’ll call.
5.30.08 / 1am
For me its either all-in, or a C/R all-in.
Quads dont come along too often so get it in there. The opponent only needs to call an all-in a small % of the time to make it better than a value bet.
5.30.08 / 3am
I voted bet half pot - pot. Something like 310$ or the like.
An overshove screams total bluff or something close to the nuts. As there are few total bluffs that would have fired weak on two streets on that coordinated a board, I cant see how we can represent a total bluff here. I am very surprised that villain would call with top two here, as we look a lot like full house +.
Anyway, my most common mistake is to overestimate my opponents, so I am probably way off.
5.30.08 / 6am
Agree w the staff and a half to pot raise seems more likely to be paid. An all in raise might scare off two high pairs (AT, AQ) while a strong bet like this may induce a full to re-raise allin.
5.30.08 / 7am
I would have shoved (bet over pot).
Agree with 5types. He only has to call a small % of the time to make the play proffitable.
It is not a draw heavy board and he is calling on both streets with other players in the pot. There is a good chance that villian has a hand here and pay us off.
5.30.08 / 7am
I’m betting big here. Our play looks like a weak ace or a medium sized pocket. If we’re lucky something like KdJd got there and we’re getting paid off. I don’t know the stacks but I’d probably shove.
5.30.08 / 7am
This is a tough spot. You have about 900 left with a pot of 525. The 1/3 pot bet on the turn might give your hand away a little if you shove the river. I think it just looks suspicous because there aren’t that many draws on the flop that you could be semibluffing. I guess you could be playing a hand like AJdd like this, but betting pot or all in might scare him off of AT or something. Personally I would’ve considered betting more on the turn, maybe build a pot so it’s easier to let him commit himself to an all in on the river.
Maybe bet 220 instead of 110 on the turn bloating the pot so an all in is about pot sized instead of 1.8x the pot on the river. Just an idea, could be wrong, think you played it fine though.
5.30.08 / 8am
My opinion.
Check/Raise all in. Not bet.
I seriously don’t understand why you would bet here. The opponent called the turn. Since the opponent probably thought he/she was ahead that Q on the river looks harmless in most senarios in my opinion. They are gonna bet almost for certain. They’re options are, flush and straight draws that you bet on the turn, a set or a worse ace. If you check you make it look like a missed draw in some cases. Unless they are very intuitive and check back (figuring the pots big enough) they’re betting. If they check you still getting paid off.
Check/Re-Raise all-in here.
I guess thats why I’m the amateur.
5.30.08 / 9am
i agree with cozzyorlando in some ways. i agree betting bigger on the turn to manipulate the pot so a shove is pot sized, but you aren’t giving the big draws a price to call. This is a tough one because a tight opponent will freeze when your asking for a quarter of his stack. I don’t expect a TAG to flat here, maybe a passive player but the turn bet is my problem. i bet $250 hope he’s has a boat or an ace he likes. the pot is round about my stack so i shove into the pot. no checking for sure. i am not wasting a bet here.
5.30.08 / 9am
Hitting the queen on the river is a dream card for me. It makes any of the senerio’s look good, but not knowing that in advance you have to put him on ace paint. There was nothing else worth risking his money on. Now, what did he think I had? The fact that he kept calling and not raising lends me to believe he was putting me on an ace rag and he was slow playing his cards, especially when 4th street hit the 3, giving him 2 pair. My vote was 1/2 pot hoping he would at least call if he didn’t improve on the river or most likely come over the top.
Let’s say a king came on the river. He would have a whole differant outlook on the hand. Did I have A K and improve? Did the K give us a chop? maybe a str8. A bet to big on the river would tend to scare the villian a little and he would give up the hand.
Just food for thought

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5.29.08 / 8pm
There’s a better than average chance that the CO has a strong hand here - maybe top two or even possibly tens full. The flop is fairly dry, and even though you weren’t betting heavy, it still should have been enough to dissuade a gutshot on the turn (unless they picked up a flush draw too). Given that, they had to have a pretty decent hand to continue on both streets, especially with a third player still in action.
I like a strong bet, close to 3/4th pot, maybe larger as a weak ace might interpret as you playing the board kicker and trying to force them out of a split. All very strong hands will probably re-raise you, and all misses weren’t calling anything to begin with.
What actually happened: You shoved all in and the CO called, showing AQ.