Pair and draws out of position, high stakes no limit cash

I like a check-raise here. You’re short enough that the bet won’t be insanely out of line with pot, but you have a deep enough stack to cut your opponent’s odds to well under 2-1. You will get called by a decent variety of hands, and every now and again you’ll be up against a better draw, but you’re unlikely to ever be in a situation where you don’t have at least 30% equity.

You could lead, but you’re unlikely to get played back at by pure misses, so you lose the value that you get when you check and he c-bets with missed hands.

What actually happened: Bawankawonk checked and called a 1,600 bet. The turn was the 5h and Bawankawonk checked again, this time check raising Urindanger all in. Urindanger called with QT and held up to win the pot.

I like the strong lead. I have a monster draw and want the money in the pot. If he folds it’s ok, I had “only” a draw. If he reraises it’s ok, I’ve probably a great equity.

I agree with the staff, the stack is perfectly sized for a check-raise all in.

I dont like the lead, as there are three ugly scenarios to follow it:
If villain comes over the top, you dont have fold equity in the 3-bet, which you like to have as you are still only drawing and some of your outs migth be compromised.
And if villain flats, you are in an awkward position when you dont hit the turn, and you are out of position with a hand that no longer has proper odds to hit river when all in, and with the stack/pot ratio this is a likely outcome.
Finally, if villain folds you win the pot. Quite OK, but you would rather have a c-bet to go with it.

By going for the CRAI, off course you risk villain to check behind. But that gives you a free card, and leaves the pot at a size where you still have room to play it on turn.

The actual play seems very donkish to me: To check/call the flop where the hand both has proper equity when called AND has fold equity, and then checkraising turn when it has neither.

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Agree with Kaimano. With 17 (diamonds, Q, T, 7) outs (maybe 15 without the Ts) to possibly the best hand and two cards to come you must believe you are ahead and bet strong. If the villian calls I might bet stong and be given credit for a ery good hand; If i get reraised i have a good price to call.

you flopped huge (straight flush draw) and want to get all of your money in here (especially on the short stack).. check to induce a continuation bet (leading strong on flop will scare him away most of the time) and push - no doubt CR is the best play here

Agree with the check raise.

I voted check-raise on the flop for the same reason. What I’d like to see though, from the staff or the comment thread, is an argument supporting buwankawonk.

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I think the check-raise all in really limits your potential for this veritable monster against an aggressive opponent.

I voted lead-weak because if you percieve yourself as being a little passive in this match and you want to play against that image a weak lead accomplished alot in the hand, it builds a pot on a J10 high flop which Urindanger is almost 90% of the time at least calling, and its also give you the lead in the hand to control the turn whether u hit or miss, I think a check raise either gets you a small pot or it sets u up to get re-raised with a better hand and then potentially whiff the turn and riv. Any line that has more control is what I vote for here and a weak lead def gives you more control in the hand.

Hmmmm. I’m check calling.

YES. I know we have an an open ended straight draw, but with 9 T J on the board - it is just as likely that our opponent has a better straight draw (Q, or possibly QK).

YES. I know that there is a chance we may hit our flush on the turn or river, but there are still two diamonds beating our flush.

YES. I know that there is an even smaller chance we may hit our straight flush. But are you willing to CRAI 13k prior to making your hand???

All of these lead me to check-call any <2/3 potsized bet or fold to any strong lead.

Right from the start, I feel our mid-sized pair LOOKS good, but really is a recipe for disaster.

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Lead weak. Like PF said, play your image. You accomplish one of two things with this play. He wont fold….even with air, in position, hes not folding to a ~1k bet, (he’ll most likely call to try and read you on the turn where he might be able to steal it). So either he plays back now, in which case you get all the money in with good odds on the flop, or he calls and you control the lead on the turn. You can handle the turn any number of ways at that point, just be ready to face a raise without proper odds if a blank hits.