Overs and the nut draw, high stakes no limit cash

Against pairs KK and down, you’re basically a coin flip. Against AA you’re a 60-40 dog and against a set, you’re 70-30. Assuming that makes up his calling range, you’re not doing too poorly if the money gets all in here at about 1.5-1.

Even though the check-raise is pretty obvious, it will still exert enough pressure to force some decent hands to fold (medium pairs with no spade, for example, know they’re a coinflip at best and drawing just about dead at worst). Sometimes the blatant play is the right one, and I think this is one of those cases.

What actually happened: GAS called and hit the flush on the turn. He then check-called the turn and check-called a river all-in when Vaga elected to keep firing.

I voted raise. Get it in with a chance to draw to the nuts or hit top pair, or have the other guy fold to your raise.

Raise. He can’t call unless he has a made flush. He has to fold an overpair and any weak draw.

Assuming your opponent is tilted, he might keep firing regardless of the flush possibility. Likewise, he might call an all-in bet; and since he might keep firing until all his money is in the pot, IMO check-calling the flop and turn and check raising the river is the most secure and profitable play. Were he not on tilt I might elect a large reraise on the flop instead.

I agree with Cristiano. Check call flop and turn, check raise the river if we make our hand. Wait to hit and let him keep firing, if you hit the turn CC anyway to try to disguise it. Im not interested in scaring him off, or putting all my money in right now…. I want to let him keep firing controlled bets while I sit back and make my hand.

Call. Give him enough rope to hang himself. He appears interested in doing so. Why get in the way of a good train wreck? You’re holding all the cards. Have I run out of cliches yet?

Call.

I agree with the check call. Why make a move when there’s a good chance this guy will gamble with you. The staff didn’t tell us what he had but I’m thinking a pocket pair. I want to see at least one more card as cheap as possible.

750$ into 1075$ is not so cheap…I want to win the pot now…

I said call simply because he has position on me. I put him on a pocket pair (JJ or so), and the only hand I am really shooting for here (don’t know the guy to put him on a good range) is the flush simply because since I don’t know him, he could very well have KK or AA, which really hurts me in the long run. A call here is also good in the since that if I do hit the flush on the turn (which happens) I can again check call, and probably milk a bunch of money from him on the river (which happens as we see).

The check raise, though possibly a good way to take down the pot, might also end up committing more money on the flop than I want to. Assuming I did that, and the flush did NOT come on the turn, then what? You have to lead out and bet, committing more money to the pot that you don’t want to do, or else he shoves and you are forced to fold.

Aggressiveness is not always the best answer.

I must be the only person that voted fold here (well, I guess not, 5%)..

My first inclination was to push, but I’m really not one to draw to a 4-card flush.. besides, I’m going to feel really bad if he had king-rag of spades and a 4th spade peels off. Guess I’m lacking the killer instinct here.

Bad play, but probably the one I would have ultimately made.

I mus´t be a donk, or I underestimate the donkyness of villain.

On NL 200 where I play, you cant expect any implied odds from 90% of players when you hit a flush using only one holecard. And as you are writing A of spades all over your forehead by calling, you are not likely to get action if you hit an A on turn either.
So basicly:
Say you call and:
- you hit turn, he checks behind and folds to your river bet. You were the stupid guy who called without potodds.
- you miss turn and check. Villain overshoves all in, as you are obviously drawing, denying you the odds for playing the stack which you had on the flop where you could pay for two cards.

Basicly, the only thing that justifies calling here is the complete retardedness off villain.
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so for all those who advocated call, what if we miss the turn? check call a pot bet which is going to be almost all of your stack?

He re-raises range is maybe greater than usual but he’s seen you play solid so he knows your strong. He’s popping with TT+ and AKo+ and AQs+ and limping with any small pair. So when he fires on a draw heavy board me first thought is bluff. I raise and see where he’s at. He jams I call for the race with QQ-KK but when if the flat calls, I’m firing the turn no matter what card hits.

Easy raise. Jeez. And the opponent to think he still has the best hand and still push. Lucky for Gas.

Perfect allin opportunity.

A: 3 outs
K: 3 outs
spade: 8.5 (I’ll give him some credit that he has at disproportionate likelihood to have at least 1 spade in his hand)
14.5*2= 29
29/46.5= 62%, go for

Even if he paired a hole card and has you dominated,
11.5*2=23/46.5=48-49%, close.

He’s pushing hard that if you brick the turn, you risk losing a lot of value due to fold equity and stealing the pot. Shove. If he folds, great you won a big pot. If he calls, great, he’s putting money in while you’re ahead to win a bigger pot.

Hmm, I miscounted my outs there Only 2 outs for the K.

I’d still push.