Top pair facing all in on river, no limit cash

You’re effectively getting 2-1 on this call. I think the question here is whether or not you believe the CO would make this bet as a bluff more than 1 out of 3 times.

Why? It just seems unlikely that someone is making an all in insta-shove for value with a weaker hand. So, that leaves you with a nuts or bluff type of situation. Without a read or an image of your own that would motivate someone to make a move on you, I think you can assume top pair is not going to be good here often enough and bail.

What actually happened: You called and were shown a set of nines.

Very unlucky. He bet the flop as a continuation bet and hits a miracle nine on the turn. That’s poker. I put him on a strong ace (AK-AQ) or a total bluff. Anyway I call.

I would probably make a crying call.. or fold.

Ha.. Depends on the opponent. If wed had 50 or so hands I think id be able to decide with enough success whether I was ahead or behind.

I would actually stick in a raise on the flop too. Which would have saved me 200 bucks in this case.

Surely he’s not betting on the end with top pair.

piquetb, you’re right if he’s a good player…but perhaps he isn’t…

I understand making the pot odds call, but in my position, i would not be making that call. it is too easy for a jackal to have made aces up or a set in this hand. his aggression makes it look good, but the progression in the betting prices you in when he stacks off, and i don’t like that. I’d have a bad feeling about the hand and threw it away. However the case is just the same for making the call. you’re getting 2-1, hes an aggro player that could very well be bluffing, but you also have to realize you’ve only got TOP pair, and against a jackal, he could have just about anything, whether it is just a smaller pair, aces, aces up, a set or even a straight is a possibility. pick a better spot lay it down and go on.

CR the flop and your life will be a lot easier. And for the villain, I would have actually checked the turn behind and wait for SB will lead out with his ace on river.

I think the real question in this quiz is: is our hero the worst player of all time? Flat call against an aggressive raiser and potentially 2 other players behind with A/K. Then check call all the way down to a river all in when you flopped your ace? Are you waiting for him to catch up, or is it just that you feel generous today.

What CityBorn said. This hand was poorly played at every point from the flat call pre-flop on. By checking and calling every bet he got NO information from villain and lost his entire stack with just a pair.

OOOps, mistooke the buttons stack for heros, so I voted call, it should probably be fold.

And _CityBorn_ is 100% spot on.

Only forgot to mention that not only is the raiser agrgesive, he is raising from late position and you are out of position. The flatcall preflop is totally retarded, and hero deserved to stack off to a set.

new to poker.

That’s the risk of slow playing and voted call too. donkey me.

Let’s try that again.
That’s the risk in slow playing your hand and I voted to call the bet. I’m an idiot.

Thats city born knows his ish.

i have to agree with city born. this hand was badly played all the way around. this is why i opted to fold assuming i was in the exact same situation. if youre going to slow play, you must be able to throw away big hands when doing so.

I voted call because it seems river instashoves tend to be angry bluffers a decent amount of the time. Seemed like that was enough of a read for a 2-1 call to me. Anyone else have any thoughts on that?

As far as the passive line on flop and turn, I completely disagree with the consensus here. I think many of you have some pretty bright ideas most times, but you’re being too results oriented on this one. Really, we won’t slowplay against someone who’s likely to have 2-3 outs (or less) against us, and likely to bail if we raise? That’s a bad idea? It’s classic WA/WB and playing possum with the aggressor is usually a good way to build a pot in that situation. I do agree that preflop you should be 3 betting here.

A7 and A9 are also reasonable possibilities.

fold.

given how you played it you’re pretty much forced to call. if you take the passive line you a) need a hand that is strong enough to beat your opponents range on average b) someone else to do the betting for you c) be willing/looking to go all in. when you’re going passive you really have no idea what your opponent is doing so you’re relying on hand strength alone.

AK is a bad hand for this, since it’s not particularly strong even if you hit and plays best aggresively utilising fold equity Much much better taking the passive line with a set in position.

In this particular hand your beating AT-AQ,TT-QQ but losing to AXs which hit 2 pair and well as sets.

Bad time to be playing passive IMO, even against an aggro dude.

Should’ve just played ABC poker and 3bet preflop to ~25 to cut odds of him hitting set and then just keep betting so he doesn’t get any free cards.

Calling both bets is such terrible play. You never get any idea where you are. You need to check-raise either on the flop or turn at least.

It is poorly played, but you made two mistakes on the flop and turn at least, maybe even preflop. Call the river and pray.

I think the call is fine; it’s not unreasonable to believe you are ahead but it’s not a surprise if you’re behind. As has been mentioned before, it was poorly played. A serious raise on the flop was in order.

Call and hold your breath that he hasn’t hit a set of 7s, or A7….