Pocket pair facing all in re-raise, Poker Stars Sunday Million

While you could read the initial raise as designed to isolate, it would be a mistake to think of the subsequent four-bet as anything but a premium hand. The initial raise is strong anyhow, since there’s not any real money coming in with the short stack and the raiser is still EP. Even if they were LP, to come back over the top of a flat caller and your three bet just screams a premium hand. Yes, it will be AK sometimes, but I don’t think enough to justify the call, even though you’re getting better than 2-1.

This is one of those spots where a premium hand is pretty much forced by the action to play in a very obvious manner, and while abandoning 20% of your stack isn’t any fun, I think it’s a must in this spot.

What actually happened In the real hand, super held tens and called. Darth showed QQ and held up to win the pot.

Our image is aggressive and he may be trying to take a shot at this pot. I’d fold pocket tens because even marginal hands like AJ are coinflip but pocket jacks is good enough to call due to pot odds. Sometimes I’ll be behind but more often I think I’m coinflip against AK-AQ and sometimes I’ll be ahead (AJ-TT).

lol donkaments. lol @ folding JJ for 31BB

Looks strong but I still think you need to call.

You’ll have over 100k left if you do lose, and JJ is good enough to give it a shot.

10’s id fold.

his shove in a squeeze indicates a premium hand, but getting 2:1 makes it very hard to lay down Jacks, prolly even Tens because once i decided that he doesnt have a bigger pair but a big ace it doesnt matter if i hold jacks, tens, even nines or eights. the fact that i will survive and could end up with a huge stack makes me call and pray my read for AK is right.

Just ask yourself, what hands does vilian need to come over the top of my re-raise. Then fold.

lol @ confusing “what really happened” Use player A/B/C/D/E/F did this and that or add the names of the players to the table. Now I’m confused which had the queens, the shortstack B or player C.

Anyway.. I’d lay it down without reads. If he’s a solid winner he doesn’t push here with AQ.

Also.. how come he has a read on us but we don’t have a read on him?

No read == fold. Loose isolator == call

I’ve made similar plays in this case to pick up the dead raise money in a pot with VERY marginal hands, as bad as KJos.

But i doubt this guy is just on a resteal iso for all in, playing for a freeride at the sidepot.

I said fold because Jacks suck… and tens are worse.

This is a call. After being flat called by a solid winning player i dont see how he can have QQ+ and have you beat. If he did he would probably raise to isolate. I think this guy has something like 77-1010 & AK, possibly AQ but not likely. After all that your pretty much pot committed here you must call with 1010 and JJ. Hope and pray overcards dont hit.

@ Moe D. You are on crack.

insta fold! you have over 100k left if you call,but only about 10 BB.I fold and keep my 30 BB

There are 3 ways to play JJ, and they’re all wrong.

Best case scenario your racing and and if you fold you still have plenty of chips to charge through the rest of the field.

I like the fold, due to the flat (indicating a middle to high, or Med PP). This bet really indicates a strong hand to me. AK or AQ, AA KK or QQ No way its AJ. 32 of the 50 hands are coin tosses, and the other 18 have you in bad shape. I think it -EV to call there.

The villain must put you on a premium hand because of your 4 bet. He times down before making his decision to shove because he has a decision to make.
He would have to decide whether to gamble with AK or if he has QQ decide what the likelehood you have him beat with AA KK.
He definitely would not shove with JJ TT because he would not have much chance of coming out on top and if he did shove with these he would do it quickly to represent more strength.If he had AA KK his decision would have been instant but he may delay to represent weakness.

Considering the timing of the shove and the fact that you are 100% losing to QQ and 50/50 to AK (which means you are 50% winning, 150% losing), The pot odds as well as the read are not in your favour but your remaining stack is (approx 20BB) if you fold. Easy fold.

I agree with Paul, I made a good raise, for him to time down shows he had something to contimplate however, he still pushed, he has to have a solid hand. Deffinately not AQ which is still just a coin flip.

If it wasn’t a raise of our raise I would call but the fact they came over the top of our raise narrows the hands to AA, KK, QQ, AK, and possibly a pair of tens. Any pair lower I would be surprised that he had unless we have been super aggressive and hes decided to take a stand against us. With four possible hands in which were dominated by three and a coin flip on the other are not the odds I’m looking for. I fold. I hate jacks anyway.