Daily Hand Quiz

A lack of a three bet preflop indicates that you’re probably ahead at this point, since AA and KK would have certainly three bet, and QQ + JJ would probably three bet. It’s most likely that you’re up against a pocket pair lower than TT here.

If that’s the case, you’ll probably kill the action by raising again. Just calling risks a scary turn card that will kill your action, but that will still happen less frequently than your opponent folding when you raise. I’d call and re-evaluate on the turn, but I’m playing this hand assuming I’m ahead.

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Call, and bet the turn strong if a picture card doesnt hit.

If it does, probably still bet 3/4 pot to see where you are.

Why do we have to wait until tommorrow before finding out what happened?

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I don’t want to see a turn card. Any A,K,Q,J would be unplesant and even a lower card may hit his pocket pair. He’s a thinking so he knows that I shouldn’t reraise with a pocket pair at this point so…I do that! I want him to think that I’m re-stealing from him.

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i think the re-raise is the play here.. i dont want him to draw out on me.. your hand isnt THAT great so take it here if you can, and if you get a another reraise you know youre probably beat

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in this position, it’s about the weakest boat you can have. I reraise, and probably shove. I don’t mind telling him ‘ive got the pair, or the five, and it’s all up to you’. If he’s paired less than aces, he may give it up. I want him to give it up. If he stays, on my raise or my call, with two overcards, he’s got a good chance of hitting them, and if the fourth five drops, he’s got me beat with any overcard.

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The staff analysis is ALMOST correct. The opponent has a smaller pocket pair OR AK, AQs, KQs, or AJs.

Just calling is going to invite a big card to hit that board and then you are out of position and pretty much screwed. If you call and a big card misses and you bet out, that will “kill your action” as well. And if a big card misses and you check and they indeed have big cards, they will simply check behind you and get another free shot at it, which is DISASTOROUS.

For that reason you MUST reraise here. If you knew with certainty that they had a smaller pocket pair then yes calling would be a better play. But because of their other hand possibilities, not reraising now becomes a donk move.

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First off all,it could be because I play shorthanded, but opening for 3BB out of position seems like a pretty small raise to me. So does the 2/3 pot lead on flop. I go 4BB preflop, 3/4 pot on flop.

For the flop:
What is villains range? He could be bluffing with two overs, but that seems a bit unlikely for a solid player against an early position raiser. He migth have suited connectors with a 5, that would be nasty. Most likely he has a small or medium pocket pair. Finally he could have a preflop passively played JJ (I think it is out of the question to assume a solid player flats QQ+ preflop).

What will give us action if we 3-bet the flop? If we 3-bet here, it is the same as telling villain out hand: a high pocket pair. So basicly we will almost everytime end the hand rigth here, except for when we are beat.

What if we call his raise? Well, it in villains point of view that would probably add medium pairs and perhaps AK/AQ hoping to spike turn. The danger of checking is that he migth hit the turn. That is only a real danger if he is on air.

Folding is out of the question.

I like to call his raise and reevaluate turn. Most likely we only have to dotch two outs.

If a non-scarecard hit, I will check and go for the check-raise all in. I Would like another 100$ from villain, and it migth even make JJ fold, as the stacks are large enough to leave you fold equity and a range of TT+ will be nasty for JJ. If villain checks behind, I lead any river for half pot for value. If turn and river goes 4 J, he will probably pay river with hands like 77-99 for couriosity.
If a the turn comes picasso, and villain lead out, I fold or call depending on the bet-size and check/fold river if called. He migth not have hit it, but medium pairs would probably check behind for showdown value rather than turn their hand into a bluff. Thus slowplayed higher pairs and flop-bluffs hitting will seem more likely. Still, if villain checks behind on a scarecard, I lead river for half pot.

The nastiest spot would almost be a 7-9 hitting turn and villain openshoving, or a 7-9 hitting turn or river and villain raising us all in when we valuebet river. I guess I would have to make a laydown then.

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@Onlinepokerincome
To add those hands AK, AQs, KQs, or AJs to villains handrange, I think you would need to have a better read on him.

All we are told is that he is solid and thinking. From what I am told, solid is like tigth aggressive rigth? Assuming this:

PREFLOP:
If villain has had AK or AQ, he would probably have reraised preflop. We are told that he knows where the reraise button is at. A clever player would seldom call an early position raise with AJ or KQ, rather just fold to early raises or reraise mid/late position raises, so you know where you are at when playing them.
This seems to make those hands less likely preflop, while any pocket pair would call for set-value. I am not saying he aint calling with broadway cards preflop, just that pocket pairs is a huge part of his calling range compared to a donkeys calling range.

FLOP:
Furthermore, we are not told that villain like to raise a c-bet with air, we are told that he is a solid player. This also makes pocket pairs more likely.

If we were told that villain was a spewtard raising all of our c-bets whenever he think we MIGTH not have hit the flop, and is likely to stack off with 99- as overpairs, I would raise here too. If we told that he was a skilled LAG, I would too. Against a good TIGTH player we would just turn our hand into a bluff. We will throw villain of a potential fancy bluff with air, but I really think he has a lower pocket pair minimum 80% of the time.

We will never stack a good villain off, but our hand has good showdown value and migth extract 100$ more, a 150% increase in the income from the hand compaired to 3-betting the flop. As we know we wont stack him off when in front, it is also easier not to get stacked off if he does hit a nasty card.

And just as a general thumb-rule: Never 3-bet a non-drawheavy flop against a TAG when you are heads up.

I think 3-betting is just as horrible mistake as Onlinepokerincome think calling is, unless there is something the staff didnt tell us about villains play.

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Re-raise, take the pot and the praise.

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Re-raise and get it over with. Why in the world would you want to play a medium-strength-easy-to-get-outdrawn hand for 3 streets out of position?

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So, here are the combinations and preferences:

*Raise into a better house (or eek! quads)
You will lose lots of money as you will likely be committed getting near 2 to 1 if he goes all in. You will lose ~$420 (occasionally sucking out with that miracle 10).
—EDGE TO CALLING

*Raise into a worse house/ bluff catcher
You will win the existing pot ($110) and sometimes (maybe 20%) the rest of his stack (~$350) for a profit of about ($110 + .2*350 = $180)
—EDGE TO RAISING

*Call into a better house (or quads)
You now have a sweat on the turn. I’ll analyze that one tomorrow
—-EDGE TO NEITHER

*Call into a worse house
This will keep your opponent in the hand (remeber re-raising gets them to go away if they have nothing). We’ll have to see what the turn brings, but when I’m ahead I like my opponent still in the pot.
—EDGE TO CALLING

Two for calling, one for raising, and one neutral. I say the edge is to calling. No matter what, on a board like this, we are going to have to sweat the turn and river if villian decides to play. I like to sweat with my money in front of me rather than in the middle.

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I’m reraising in this spot all day every day. A decent raise too. It may scream that I don’t want to see a turn card, but it should also scream to a “thinking” opponent that I have him covered at this point. I take the $110, become the new chip leader, and have a Coke & a smile..

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Your bet looks like a cbet, so quite likely he puts you on AK

if you just call it’ll look like you’re on overcards like AQ+ or ATs+

only hands that make sense for your opponent to have that beat you is JJ and maaybe QQ.

I’d expect your opponent to continue the betting the turn and river, so i’d probably check/call the turn then check/raise the river whether or not any picture cards come out (since he’ll extremely likely to bluff represent those)

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I agree.

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Ok, I officially hate computers!!! Could someone delete my last comment. Now, as I was trying to say, I agree with Sted.

Re-raise, take the pot and the praise.

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I dont see how you could just call in this spot. I would justt call with qq kk or aa, anything else like TT i’m reraising and making him pay to hit his overcards, and if your beat already it doesn’t matter because your calling him anyways so get it in now before a scare card hits and you second guess yourself.

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This smells strongly like AK or AQ believing neither of you hit the flop and thus he must be ahead. JJ or QQ would have reraised pre-flop. Reraise him now and don’t let him draw or at least make him pay to draw.

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I’m kinda thinking between Staff and OLPI…I would most likely just call and see what happens on the turn.I still like my Tens vs overcards…

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re-raise. Definately not a fold and a call would give you no idea where you’re at and give your oppenent a chance to catch a higher card for a better boat.

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