Baby set on hellish river in position, no limit cash

Should you turn your set into a bluff? This doesn’t seem like a terrible spot to do so. If your opponent had a strong made hand, they probably would have bet the river again, as there are so many second best hands you might feel compelled to call a value bet with. The check really feels like a weak hand - the problem is, several very weak hands are besting your set at this point.

It’s not hard for you to tell a reasonable story about the river helping your hand. Your flop bet could have been made with a wide range, and your call on the turn could easily be a draw.

I think the fact that most very strong hands would bet here but most hands that you’re beating and most medium-strength hands that are beating you would check here and likely fold to a bet warrants a stab at this pot.

What actually happened: You checked behind and the SB showed 98s.

I voted to bet half the pot initially, ranging him in something like 65s or 78-89s. On second thought though, I think betting the half pot here makes sense:

1) You flop with AJo/QQh/AAh/. You bet out strong with top pair or similar strong hand.
2) Turn comes, ugly. It seems pretty obvious your villain made some sort of hand, or he isn’t betting here into a loaded board with a TAG player. You call, only with a strong hand that has a strong draw (see, above).
3) Death card for Villain. He’s pulling his hair out for not betting more into a 100 dollar pot. I think if you bet weak here, you’re giving him a reason to call. The problem is the pot wasn’t built enough to give you room to bluff. This is a really crappy spot, but I probably bet 1/2 or such the pot and hope villain curses himself for letting AJo river his made draw. If you don’t bet, you’re giving any weak flush draw free equity that it doesn’t deserve. Use your image and hope the goofy player folds.

I voted check.. but if it was 9:00am on a Friday morning at work and I was actually playing I think I would definitely bet his check on the river.

A strong opponent might check-call with the 9 of hearts in his hand, but against this type of opponent I think hes going to bet his flush, even a baby one.

*wasn’t 9:00am

Interesting quiz…his check-call on the flop and bet on the turn screams a flush…our eventual bet on the river would scream the ace of hearts…is he capable of folding a non-nuts flush just because a fourth heart came on the river? I don’t think many would be capable of this folding…often just because they don’t like to surrender to unluckyness…and what if he has a straight? And what if he has the nut flush and try to induce us to bluff?? Perhaps I check behind and pray…

I value bet this one, probably like 1/4 the pot. It’s a good bet, because it gathers alot of information without risking alot of additional chips.

This really feels like a draw that didn’t pan out to me. I think most made hands would’ve bet the river, even a small straight. My raise and bet on the flop takes me off a draw. I mean, the way I’m betting, it looks like whatever I’ve had I’ve had from the start, which is true, I’m playing this hand pretty honestly to the turn. My opponent’s bet on the turn puts my opponent right on a draw. He knows if he checks I’m likely to bet, and probably bet big to force out possible draws. He bet less than half the pot which scares me from going over the top and lets him get another card for cheaper than he might’ve gotten it otherwise. Checking the river really seems like he’s waving a white flag. I bet small, if he check-raises I can get out of there, but I think most likely I’m looking at a call/fold. The great thing about the small bet into a pot with a history like this one is that it really seems like a beggar’s bet. It scares medium hands from going over the top, and hands that I beat almost HAVE to call for pot odds, and I make a little more out of the hand.

You’re SO beat. Give it up. same for a set of Aces, unless one of them is the Ah.

I think I’d turn my hand into a bluff on the river in this situation and bet it.

And there’s two reasons why: first the lead on the turn looks weak — if they really made their hand on the turn why wouldn’t they show more strength also by betting so weak they left themselves and awkward stack to pot ratio on the river. Secondly, it’s very unlikely that our opponent will check raise bluff in this spot, so most likely our bet will close the action.

i voted check because i could see myself bet and then my see the opponent shove over the top and then i would of been wishing i checked. even if he do bet we’re only gonna be called by hands that will beat us.

It’s true that we’re only gonna get called by hand that beat us. But the thing about betting here is that a lot of hand that beat us will lay it down because the story of AA AJ QQ maybe even AK with the A or Q of hearts does make sense which makes it very hard for a hand like KQ or a baby flush to call.

nice question btw

I voted check, but a bet pretty close to half pot would make sense as well. If more or less depends on your usual river value betting size as this is what we want to look like, but 40-60% pot.

The nice thing about the bet that looks value-ish, but still not too small and tempting, is that it SCREAMS Ace of hearts, and is likely to make a whole lot of hands fold which have us beat. It is also very unlikely that villain has the nuts and goes over the top, as he checked his hand on river. Basicly we will probably get called by hands including King of Hearts, but few other hands.

kingofsnake is way off by suggesting betting for value: We just wont get called by someone not holding a heart. By betting 1/4 pot we just risk getting called by the Q or perhaps even 9 flush as well. If betting, half pot is the way to go.

The more I think of it, the bluff appeals to me. My first though was to check, as the set still have some showdown value if not raised. I guess that was my inner wuss talking. Still better than the really small or large bet though.

Let’s be realistic here.
If you bet, he’s only calling if he has you beat. If he raises big, you just wasted money, cause ain’t no way in hell you’re calling into 4 hearts, bluff or not. Remember, you’re a solid player. He’s goofy, but not crazy. No ones calling a bet without a heart in their hand. It’s either raise or fold. Be happy with what you got.

I voted check, for the same reason as mobilbob voted ‘raise or fold’ apparently. Your bet here will not make you a dime. So why bet?

If you bet, and he’s not got you beat, he can’t call. If you bet, and he’s got you beat, he’ll call or worse. So why bet? Just check, you’re lucky to be here this long, and show it down.

What Philes and Mobilbob are clearly missing here is that it make sense for us to represent that the river heart made OUR flush (which would make our turn call with 4/5 of a flush a consistent storyline) and we may very well get a lesser turn made flush to lay down this hand.

I routinely bluff boards with 4 suited cards on the river when in position if someone checks to me and i wasn’t betting like crazy on the 2 streets before me

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