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The queen is a bit of an annoying card, since AQ is a likely holding for your opponent, but I think it’s only a small part of a range that includes a lot of small to medium pocket pairs that are going to have a tough time calling here. It’s hard to put them on a very strong hand as your 3rd raise probably made you look pretty committed and most JJ hands would probably go ahead and get the rest of the money in preflop.

I think you’ve represented a very strong hand so far and there’s no reason to quit doing that now. I lead all the time here.

What actually happened: You shoved and your opponent folded.

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I totally agree, not only is he showing his weakness my flatting the 78, a shove might even force him to fold JJ/TT here. If he is a loose player preflop, his range is a little bigger, but our push represents KK/AA, which is exactly what we want to begin with for our FE.

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Staff comments sounds good.

Im not a fan of re-raising every time you get AK like some players seem to think is a good tactic, but in this situation youre keeping up the story of an overpair with a shove so shove.

You’ll only get called by a donkey with Q10s QJs or maybe if youre up against AQ. Theres always the risk of monster, like a set, and people just willing to gamble on a flush draw, but hopefully most of the time they will be folding.

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say you bet half the pot – that’s $85 of your $135. your opponent calls. you’re down to $50 and are probably pot committed. or, you push.

i don’t know.

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He re-raises in second position after we raised UTG, then calls our re-re-reraise. If he’s a good player he’ll not play TT or JJ like this because too often an overcard will flop. So I think he’s slowplaying a monster (QQ+). He could have AK himself…but could be AK of clubs…Too much money in the pot to think he’ll fold to our shove…I check fold and remember to myself not to put the third raise out of position with AK.

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Eeh… Different sites, different players I guess. I play Laddies, people are appearently more passive there.

We are told that villain is loose preflop – is he a loose caller/limper, or a loose 3-better? Has he called a lot of 3- or 4-bets in the past, suggesting he could even consider calling the 4-bet with JJ preflop?
In NL200, I am not used to see the usual passive donks reraise a UTG bet with less than AQ+, QQ+. Calling a huge 4-bet even seems to cofirm that he has a huge hand.

This is shove or fold, and the only hand I see him fold to our shove is AK. Combinatoricly there are 18 ways for him to have AK, 18 for him to have QQ+, so I guess it is a shove. Oops, I voted give up, better do the math rigth away next time.

(Except if he calls AK, that happened to me last nigth in a similar spot. I had KK, he spiked A on river)

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If we have AK he can have AK only in 9 ways, not 18…

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A continuation bet here is necessary for me about 3/4 of the time. most of the time I raise, I’m offer a probe bet of 1/4 to one 1/2 the pot. I’ll mix in bigger bets, and checks to change my image and represent a value bet. If he comes over the top, I’m beat and fold. A check here is almost always a mistake for me, or an intentional varying of my style.

I will check this hand about a quarter as much as I would slow play a monster hand.

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standard check/fold.

TT+/AQ+ is a reasonable range for a loosish player here. of that he is only folding AK to a shove.

he obviously doesn’t have odds to setmine with a lower pair so can’t have that, and if he called with TT/JJ preflop he sure isn’t folding on that flop.

we really cannot hope to push the opponent off much of his range at all here. sure, it’s great to see that he happened to have AK and folded it, but a shove is -EV here for sure. i don’t think it’s close.

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staff is flat wrong, btw, about “a lot of small to medium pocket pairs” being in opponent’s range.

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first of all the 4-bet size is just atrocious. he’s never 5-bet shoving light since your entire range is pretty much priced in to calling a shove. i sure hope hero doesn’t make his 4-bet bluffs this big. $48-52 ftw.

as played, i just shove away. this would be a great spot to check when we actually have “it”…but balance is over-rated at these stakes and i doubt villain is good enough to realize this.

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lol @ mid pr not in his range. villian gets it in pre with JJ+ most times at these stakes. sometimes 88+ when 6 max. you gotta keep the lead in the betting here, why let the guy take the play (all be it limited) away?

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Fold

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By playing AK like this OOP, you have to raise/shove here. The flat call by your oppponant probably takes him of KK/AA, unless hes really playing tricky. Youve represented the hand, now play it like you have it.

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Even a moderately trappy villain can easily hold the overpair here. Since putting in the 4th raise betrays the strength of the hand. I check fold unless I am quite certain my opponent would not trap in this way.

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@kaimano:

For villain to have QQ+: His first card need to be one of 9 specific cards, his second can only be one of two. So 9*2=18 possible pairs.

For villain to have AK: his first card need to be one of 6 cards, the second one of 3 cards. So 6*3=18 possible AK holdings.

Of course they will practically be identical two and two, but for the probability you need to count both AK and KA.

Putting him on this range will mean that pushing will loose you 135$ half the time (when you are called, assuming you dont spike an A vs KK), but it will win you 173$ the other half, making it profitable.

@PokerDroz

I disagree with you and they staff. As stated before, maybe people play more aggressive on Full Tilt than on Ladbrokes, but I have only seen someone go broke on TT/JJ preflop for 100BB like twice in a the last half year on NL200. The villain being ” A little loose preflop” is imo not enough to consider mid pairs a part of his range.

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der

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if hes loose he could even have SC like 9T suited or small pockets..

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I said fold

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Given the stack sizes, anything but shove is just completely retarded

Opponent with AA/KK would have almost always have shoved after you made it $78 to go (which you would’ve called . AQ, well you’d HOPE they’re not stupid enough to call the $78 bet. AK/JJ/TT is going to have a really hard time calling an all in from you since you’re pretty much representing AA/KK/QQ

QQ is realistically the only hand you fear this point.

I have to say, really really well played hand

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