Kings with an ace on the flop, in position, nl cash

Game type: 1/2 no limit cash, 6-max
Your image: Very aggressive
Opponent’s image: A little tight
Your hand: K♣K♦
The setup: You’ve been doing a decent job of running over a fairly passive table preflop, and you’ve shown decent hands the few times you ended up going to showdown.
This hand, the table folds to you on the button and you raise to $7. The SB three bets you $23. The BB folds. You re-raise to $77 total and the SB flat calls. The flop comes:
A♦9♦3♣
The SB checks. What’s your play? How different would your answer be if you held QQ?
2.29.08 / 1am
with a possible flush draw on the board and out of position I don’t think the SB is so cute to check and try to induce a bet. He’s tight and a tight player usually bets when he has a hand. I’d bet and if he shoves and shows an ace…ok, I imagine to have gone all-in preflop and have been unlucky…that’s poker.
2.29.08 / 3am
maybe i suck at poker but why wouldnt there have been a reraaisee?
2.29.08 / 3am
Lead out and call all day long as you’re gonna be pot committed. check calling is pretty weak in general and certainly not optimal here.
2.29.08 / 3am
i think our kings are gud here when he checks, the only ace a tight player wud call a three bet is ace king (ace queen wud b an ambitiuos call after the size of the raise u have just put in preflop what does he expect u to have), he cud possibly call with aces to be tricky and is slowplayin but after you three bet he will probably knows that ur goin no where and wud re raise. so that leaves qq jj 1010 im ceckin down and callin every street down if he bets.
2.29.08 / 4am
The fact that he flat calls your 4 bet tends to make me think he’s got a pocket pair here, especially that he checks the flop. I think betting will give you more information than a check here. By betting, considering that you both just committed $77 preflop, betting will probably take him off his hand (since the assumption is he has no A). Remember, they are passive, so him checking on the flop is a good sign he’s got a pocket pair here.
2.29.08 / 5am
you just got a flat call at $77 from a tight passive player, the ace scared the daylights out of him so he checked, a bet here of no less than $120 gets him to fold a hand as good as AQ (which probably wouldn’t have called pre-flop anyway. KK is golden here, just bet it.
2.29.08 / 5am
If we are sure he has a pocket pair lower than kings it’s interesting the idea to induce a river bet from him. He may be convinced to have the best hand and bet it for value. The risk is of course to be sucked by a lower pair…
2.29.08 / 9am
I would bet on the flop if he comes over the top of me i dont see how Kings are good in this spot. If he had A10+ he probably would check to the raiser knowing you are aggressive player. At that point he would move All-in. I dont know how you can check this flop, I dont know if this opponent is passive or aggressive all I know is that he is tight.
2.29.08 / 9am
If i was the opponent and it was checked to me on the flop I am pushing this guy off his hand when I have 10’s.
2.29.08 / 1pm
This is not a really tough spot.
The opponent has a tight image, so the his 3 bet lets me think he has QQ, JJ, or TT.
Could be AK, but when he smooth calls, I dont think so.
Checking behind him is a good move here post-flop. He may pay you off on the turn or river holding QQ-TT, b/c you didn’t bet and acted scared.
Any of those options could be good answers, but I think checking is the best postflop move.
2.29.08 / 1pm
I’m thinking that calling in this position gives you no information about his hand. A continuation bet of 1/2 the pot would would help define your hand. If he comes over the top, you know your beat and fold. Checking here gives free reign to a guy with a weak hand like A-x, when you probably could have pushed him out. I’d bet KK or QQ.
2.29.08 / 2pm
I voted bet/fold, but after thinking about it some more, I agree with the staff. If youre winning, youre almost definitely dominating a lower pair, and you want to extract more money out of your opponent. Best way to do that would be to look like you dont have the ace. If youre behind, youd rather not put any more money in. In this scenario: he hit his ace, he’s a tight player who called a 4 bet preflop…its a good ace and youre not big-betting him off it, if you put money in youre throwing it away.
Best move here is to check, then make up your mind which way youre reading this thing on the turn.
If you bet youre committing yourself if youre behind, and scaring him off if youre ahead…lose/ lose.
3.1.08 / 2pm
Hey,
No guts, no glory.
You have a loose image here which will cause the SB to run with a wider range of hands. KK with the outside shot at a backdoor flush makes this an easy bet. Once you make the bet you really are committed to call any reraise. It’s a cash game so if you lose the hand you’re back into your pocket, not out of a tourney.
3.12.08 / 3pm
I WOULD PUT OUT A FEELER BET TO SEE IF THAT ACE HIT HIS HOLE CARDS
5.19.08 / 11am
GBOBB: he would move in with a flush draw too, so a feeler bet wont get you anywhere.
any bet you make commits you to the pot wether he has an ace or not so checking behind here is the best option as you lose the least when youre behind and might induce bets from weaker hands on the turn.

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2.12.08 / 7pm
The hands that the SB would be likely to three bet you with preflop that include an ace are probably AA, AK, AQ and maybe ATs . Given their image, it’s probably just AQ and up. Since you hold two kings, that cuts down on the possible AK combinations. Your opponent would probably also three bet with TT and the occasional lower pair or suited broadway hand. That puts it pretty close in terms of ace hands and non-ace hands.
What if you bet? If you bet here and your opponent shoves, you’re close to committed to call - if you make it 130 and they shove for 70 more, you’re calling 70 to win 480, which is just about the right price to call against a paired ace. You’ll also rarely get a worse hand to call. Having the K of diamonds makes it pretty unlikely that your opponent is on a flush draw. With all that in mind, I think the right play is to check and then bet (or call) the turn, or maybe even check twice and bet the river, hoping to extract more value from the pair hands you’re beating, and possibly even saving a couple bucks against a scared AQ.
What actually happened: You checked behind and the turn bricked. Your opponent bet $96 on the turn and you called. The river bricked and you checked down. They showed tens and you won the pot.