Tourney / NL

Dumb end of the straight facing a river shove, no limit tournament

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Game type: 1k buy in 6 max online, Full Tilt
Stage of tourney: Fairly early
Avg stack: ~6500
Your image: Active pre and post flop
Opponent’s image: Successful, thinking player
Your hand: 9♠9♣

The setup: You’ve accumulated a decent stack in this tournament when the following hand comes up. You’re dealt nines in the BB. The table folds to the CO, who raises 3x. You three bet to 900 after the SB folds, and the CO calls. The flop isn’t the greatest:

J♦Q♥K♠

You check and the CO checks behind. The turn bricks with the 2♥ and you lead for 450 into 1850. The CO calls and the river puts a four-card straight on board:

T♦.

You check and your opponent shoves. What’s your play?

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DHQ Staff
2.12.08 / 2pm

This wouldn’t be anything but an easy laydown if it weren’t for one fact - your opponent is a thinking player and from a thinking player’s perspective there’s just not many ways that you can be holding an ace.

So, does he have an ace? Well, the preflop action seems to rule out AK and (since his stack is a little short) possibly AK as well. You also probably would expect him to drop most weaker aces, so the combinations he can have that include an ace are pretty limited - probably A10s and AJ. His flop and turn play make sense with AJ, but not so much with AT. The call on the turn feels like a weak hand that can possibly improve - with the size of the pot relative to his stack, it seems like strong hands would raise to take the pot.

His bet sizing doesn’t provide much of a clue, since you’d expect both an ace and bluff to shove in this spot.

All that said, I don’t know that you’re facing a bluff more than a third of the time here. You do have the chips to burn, but I don’t have the guts to pull the trigger.

What actually happened: You folded.

Greg
2.15.08 / 12am

Easy fold ^^

luca74
2.15.08 / 5am

bad idea the check on the river.
the pot is 2750, you have to bet 800/1200 so he can’t bluff simulating an Ace. he can have a two pair or a straight but without a bet on river we can’t know his hand.
i fold

cash monkey
2.15.08 / 9am

To me, this hand is all about the stack size and tournament stage. If you lose, you still have 2x Avg stack with lots of room to breathe. If you win, you are miles ahead.

It’s early stages- lots of time to build back up. Hands like this are the value of a monster stack early on.

I don’t advocate going crazy, but situations like this are the gambles you’ve earned with that stack.

Call.

omlinepokerincome.com
2.15.08 / 10am

99 is a tough hand to play out of position - in tourneys I will often just shove all-in preflop to any raise because of it.

In this case, when that board flops I’d just give it up. Wouldn’t have wasted the chips on the Turn.

ace of spades
2.15.08 / 11am

shit ya you fold on that hand obviously he has the ace

Jezzta
2.15.08 / 9pm

Call. Your getting 2 to 1 odds, you have a straight, you have a massive stack AND your opponent has made a pot sized bet on the end (if he has an ace, would he expect you to call such a bet if you didn’t have an ace?). Plus, worst comes to worst, you lose a couple of thousand, but, your opponents mightnt be so ready to bluff you in the near future after seeing you call down on such a board.

Chad Gerson
2.16.08 / 3am

Call. He probably does have the ace, but you have a nice stack and can show a bit of fearlessness and improve your table image without it costing too much.

djcard_one
2.16.08 / 12pm

blind stealers in late pos 80% of the time steal with ace rag………foldddddddd

Lenny5Aces
2.16.08 / 3pm

as played: Fold. No reason to find out if he holds the Ace or not.
When you check the river you should prepare to lay down your 9’s.

AceEleven
2.16.08 / 10pm

Fold

Paul McGreevy
2.17.08 / 4am

Obvious call.

The bet on the turn was probaly wrong though

Pot 3520, 770 to call, pot odds 4.6 to 1

hands that would call 3 bet

TT JJ QQ KK AA AK AQ 4 to 3 winning/losing

770 chips left on river he will shove whatever he’s holding. Folding is just a nonsense

Steve Boyd
2.17.08 / 4pm

I said fold, but this is a pot you probably should’ve won.

What the was with that little turn ‘value’ bet? And checking the river was horrible too, should bet half his stack on the river to get rid of any bluff. Really did set up your opponent up for a great bluffing opportunity

playazhate
2.17.08 / 11pm

the only way to win in that spot with the tow nines is to lead out on the river ( at least the 1/4 of the CO player ). I mean once you have check on that river you give away a big chance too simply make fold a guy that was about too bluff it..and at the same time if he is on something like 3Q or 3J he might call you and you gonna win wth your low straight. So once you have check on that river you realy drop the tendency of winning in that spot.

DONKEYHERDER
2.19.08 / 6pm

I hate the 3x reraise out of position with a mid pair which is gonna flop overcards most the time and from the way he played it commit you allin anyways. You might as well push him allin preflop while you have some fold equity and save you the guess work after the flop. I would play it differently if in late position.

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