Flush draw and pair facing small lead, no limit cash

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Game type: 1/2 No Limit 6-max, Full Tilt
Your image: Aggressive winner
Opponent’s image: A little passive
Your hand: K♦Q♦

The setup: It’s been a good session for you so far. You’ve been playing pretty aggressive and running ok, and you’ve shown legitimate hands at most of your showdowns. This hand, you’re dealt KQs UTG and you make it $7 to go. A player folds and the CO re-raises to $24. The button folds, the SB flat calls and the BB folds. You flop top pair:

9♦3♠Q♣

The SB checks quickly and you decide to see what the CO does and check. The CO checks behind and you pick up a flush draw on the turn:

8♦

Now the SB leads for $20, a bit more than a quarter pot. Both players have seemed pretty straightforward to you so far. What’s your play?

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DHQ Staff

It seems unlikely that the button has anything at this point – any reasonable hand would have certainly defended this pot on the flop with a bet in position. So, what’s the SB have?

The smallish bet on the turn seems designed to either induce a raise or to act as a blocker. With the number of draws on this board, there’s both a greater number of combinations of drawing hands and a greater motivation for made hands to protect against draws. To me, that means you can expect him to have a draw more often in this spot than a made hand, and that you can expect him to bet more when he does have a made hand.

I think you should raise enough to charge the draw, but a little less than usual so that you don’t shut out smaller diamond draws (an angle that’s worth giving additional consideration if you’re playing deeper stacks). I’d raise to about $70.

What actually happened: You called and the CO folded. The river brought the As. The SB led for just about pot and you folded.

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matt tag

I chose the raise 20-60, thinking about the upper end, so I’m pretty close to the staff’s suggestion of 70. We want to chase out Ax if possible.

Question – would you have checkraised cutoff if he bet the flop?

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matt, I would have check raised on the flop just to see where I was at.

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drhoho

I dont get it.

JB said:
“matt, I would have check raised on the flop just to see where I was at.”

Lets get this rigth: On the flop the pot is 74$. If C had bet, he would hence have bet like at least 50$. With 187$ left, the only C-R that makes sense is CRAI.

That is not finding out where you are at, that is getting the stack to the middle.
And it is basicly going broke with top pair KQ though reraised by a passive player when opening from UTG. Unless C has a habit of 3-betting ligth i fold preflop. Perhaps I am influenced by the passive play on Laddies.

As played I enjoy the odds for the flush and flatcall turn.

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onlinepokerincome.com

There is nothing wrong with any play here except folding.

If you call you take the chance that one of the three off-suit aces will hit the river and take the pot away from you – which would be ridiculous. But you disguise the strength of your hand and if any other card falls you will have a variety of ways to extract some profit, not the least of which is snapping off a bluff.

Raising prevents the 3-outer, and likely takes down the pot right here, but that is offset by the outside risk you will lose a lot of chips to a slow-played set.

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Chad Gerson

Raise 20-60. Push out anyone on a draw and build the pot in case you hit. The river is not likely to beat you, although it did in this case.

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Anonymous

Just call and get to the next card as cheap as possible. The right odds are there purely for the flush draw, let alone any possible King and Queen outs.

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Sunshine

Doubtful that you’re behind, but there’s one thing you might be scared of here and that’s Ax of diamonds — his bet looks like he’s protecting a draw, and if it does turn out that it’s that one, he’s figured on 12 outs and may call anything less than a large raise here… I voted $60-100, but maybe $100+ is better

Maybe I’m thinking like an Omaha player in this particular situation, but I just have a feeling you need to push him off here

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Roza

I reckon you raise it up to $60-$100 you have the best hand now and hes most probably on the same draw as you, seeming you have the K and Q the only out he has it the A, chances he has it arent that good. If he had two pair or straight in his position i would check raise, and you flush if completed will win anyway. seeming we look agressive and its paid of recently he’ll hopefully call and youll either hit your draw and continue bet or hold out with the queens.

Either was raise it enough that he’ll call

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Andrew

This is a fold preflop, after getting reraised. You got not only reraised but the small blind cold-called. You have the worst relative position and are very likely to be dominated. Even when you flop a hand as good as top pair, you can’t stand any heat. If the cutoff bets $50 on the flop, are you going to call and check-fold to any future bets? That’s a very expensive way to play and it’s pure guesswork. I don’t know if there is any hand you can justify calling the reraise preflop with, you either reraise if your hand is good enough like AK/QQ+ or fold if it isn’t.

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