Top pair facing all in check raise, no limit cash

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Game type: 2/4 NL Cash, 6 max
Your image: Fairly new to table
Opponent’s image: No real read
Your hand: A♣K♦

The setup: You’ve only played a couple of orbits on this table and don’t have any real reads when the following hand comes up. You’re dealt AK in the BB and the table folds to the button, who raises to $14. The SB calls and you decide to just flat call. You flop top pair and a backdoor flush:

A♦2♦4♣

The SB checks and you decide to donk out for $18. The button raises you to $58 and then the SB overshoves for $355 total.

It’s your action. What’s your play?

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DHQ Staff

It really seems like you’re up against a combo draw here. The overbet is just a little too large to make sense with a made hand, although you’ll certainly see people use this line with a made hand from time to time.

Against a pair and flush draw type of hand, you’re roughly 57-43 to win. You’re also getting about 1.2-1 on the call. The question is whether that edge overwhelms the times you’re against a made hand from the SB or the button wakes up with a made hand and overcalls.

Your expectation against the combo draw is about +100. When you’re up against a set or a flopped straight, you still have ~7% equity in the pot. For you to come out ahead on this play, you need to be up against a made hand less than 20% of the time.

I think that’s actually a pretty reasonable threshold in this spot, but without reads I tend to play more conservatively and pass on marginal spots, so I fold here.

What actually happened: You timed down and folded. The button folded quickly and the SB mucked.

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Danny

That hand above was actually me playing 2/4 on pokerstars last night. I actually had 97os and clicked all-in by mistake.

Cashed out after that hand.

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drhoho

I let it go here. So little committed, and only one pair in your hand.

By the way, I think flatcalling a buttonraise with AK preflop is ridicoulus. Especially 3-ways, you dont want two players who migth hit a set or perhaps even two pair with A-rag. If only the hand was reraiset, this spot would either not be there or be a hell lot easier.

@Danny
Lol, misclick FTW!!!

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gulp

noooo wayyy

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onlinepokerincome.com

Standard fold.

When you start calling $355 bets into $60 pots without the nuts you have no chance to win playing poker.

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Billy

the bet is too large and you can lose to too much. This is one of those “way behind/barely ahead” situations and isn’t worth the risk.

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Samurai Kid

Easy fold. Pot odds are horrible and your hand isn’t that strong. I agree with drhoho. You should never have flat called the raise to begin with because those guys could be holding anything.

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Steve Boyd

If this were a live game I’d punch the dude in the small blind. You could’ve made heaps from the button.

Since this is online though you’ll just have to make do with punching your monitor

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Chad Gerson

Folding is not a bad play.

But online there are all kinds of donks who would shove this way with AQ or AJ. I’d consider calling.

A live game in a casino against a player I’ve seen before, no way in hell.

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Andrew

Don’t see how you can think about calling here. I find it hard to believe that too many $400 NL players will call preflop with 54/64/65 diamonds. Against the 54d I don’t think you’re even a favorite because of the three extra gutshot outs. I think the only hands the SB is likely to have are sets and maybe AK. That being said, even if he does have a combo draw, you still have to worry about the button, who could have a set himself.

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Andrew

Edit: In my second sentence I was referring to the small blind. Calling in that spot with five or six high is just spewage.

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