Big pocket pair facing limp re-raise, no limit tournament

The limp re-raise is a play that you generally fear in direct proportion to the position of the raiser - the earlier it comes from, the more you generally fear it. Another factor that influences how much credit you give the llr is how strong your raise looks - the more your raise looks like a credible hand, the scarier the llr is. Finally, you consider the chip position of the raiser. The more important the initial pot is to their stack, the less likely they are to get tricky with a big hand.

This llr comes from a relatively late position. Additionally, your raise range from the BB can be interpreted as fairly broad by your opponent since it looks a bit like a dead money pickup. Your opponent’s chip position is secure enough that they might be fooling around with a premium hand here, but with the first two factors suggesting a wide llr range I think you can expect JJ to do pretty well against villian’s holdings.

i think if he hadaces he would nt limp in such late pos.and ur rasie is just right amount to make him play back with 88 or 99.i think u can call here and push after flop or pus hnow and i think ull find ur opopent has tens

I said call b/c I know if a baby flop comes (8 high or worse), were probably getting action on the flop and will win all their chips. Also you can bet if an ace/king comes out just to see the villains reaction to overcards.

What do you mean ?

So what happened?

easy fold.You have no read on player and only have 250 chips at risk. This early in a tournament you can not gamble with your tournament life at risk. many players make the play of limp reraise with AA/KK/QQ/AK/AQ so at best you are in a race or 4:1 underdog.Wait until you know you have the best hand to gamble away your chips.

what actually happened?

@Gary

we are actually favourite against his AK,AQ,not 4/1 underdog at best.

@billy

if a baby flop comes… if a or k hits the flop…if….
if my grand mother had balls it would not be my grand mother but my grand father(sorry i had to)

Back to analysis I totally agree with DHQ staff.
It is an all in or fold situation;calling makes no sense.I am heading towards an all in,it would have been nice to know the number of entrants,if is rebuy available… to get a better Idea.With this buy-in I do expect good players at the table thats why i think villain is not limping in late position with a big pocket pair.I put him on AK,AKs maybe AQs .The race is on.

@gary
sry m8 I misread.

The problem with jacks is that they are impossible to play after the flop. Therefore calling is a terrible option, why get short-stacked already?

So it’s shove or fold. When you shove and get called you are probable dead. If this were a $20 buy-in tourney I’d say shove because in those they call shoves earley with AK and AQ.

But this is a pretty easy fold here. The higher buy-in makes people not want to flip coins early so you will likely only get called when in big trouble. You are only out 250 in chips so just let it go.

You have to put him on a big hand here, and the it is an all-in or fold spot. I decided to choose fold, mainly due to the fact that we have no read, and we still have 50+ times the BB.

and again, what actually happened?

I guess I don’t consider it all-in or fold. I just have to be able to get away from the hand after the flop. Especially since my “read” is that he doesn’t have a hand better than JJ. A baby flop or a J on the flop would probably get me committed. Otherwise get away from it and you’ve still got plenty of chips early in the tournament.

Fold completely at this stage… if he had lower pockets he wouldn’t limp then reraise to 700 - he would of went all in. so you know at best this is prbly a coin flip. and at worse, it’s game over.

Three choices:

Call (and then what? OOP… this sucks)

Raise/Shove (with JJ to a limp raise? nope)

Fold (lost 250, fine, whatever)

Just throwing it out there:

Is there anyone out there that hates pocket jacks more then I do?

I’d rather have the 2 of spades and a chance card from monoply. Jacks are shitenhousen.

Um, so, can I just say…out of position raising JJ is just a terrible play. I hate the raise from the BB here. YOu are begging a smart player to test your hand pre-flop for lots of your chips. Why raise here? What’s the point? You might be best now, but what about after the flop. I say raising from the BB was the mistake, and the result of that mistake is the must-fold scenario you have now put yourself in. Learn your lesson, knock the table next time and pray KK was getting tricky from late position and you flop your set.

Agree with alekhine11, Chase, and and onlinepokerincome.com
raise or fold.
I voted re-raise (all-in), but fold is also a good option to me, and I’ve already folded KK preflop in 1st level of a SNG (my opponents had AA ad 22 ^^ ).

Tripps, if you don’t raise with JJ with 3 other players, your pocket Jacks becomes really weak.
Even if you’re in bad position you must raise here.

Is Shitenhousen a word? Thats the best line I’ve heard in a while. lol

Fold, save your money

lol ill rather have a chance out of monopoly gud line mate