Playing Tens on an undercard flop, no limit tournament

Why is the initial description different to the actual hand?

Either way it smells like youre up against a better pair pre-flop.

Situations like this are tough, but if I put them on AK, AQ and no scare cards hit, im going to play first and reconsider if he shoves (Although that could still quite easily mean AK semi-bluff). If im sure im up against a better pair and i dont hit a set, then im happy to check-fold. At the end of the day if I bust their AK for all there chips I feel great, if I blow my chips against JJ+ you I like a muppet.

Why the hell would you be calling 1010 if you get a dream flop, next to flopping a set, if you are going to check fold, BEFORE he even acts??? Seriously this is way off, you should not be calling pre if you are not going to take it all the way on this flop

I too dislike how the hand is different from the actual one.
The given setup is ridicoulus: Why would you call a reraise with TT preflop when a tigth player reraises your UTG+1 raise? There is no setvalue at all. If you put him on JJ+ AQ+, there are equally many combinations of better pairs and overcards. As you cant assume he reraises this early a raise from a tigth player with AQ in general, it is actually more likely that he has an overpair.
Thus, this was an easy fold preflop, and as played better C-F it rigth here than throwing away a nice stack. If he checks behind, he could be AK being afraid of you slowplaying AA, but I dont think you will see that very often.
With JJ I still think it should have been folded preflop, and still check-fold on flop. Only it was sligthly more tempting to call preflop, hence less ridicoulus.

I would like to know a little bit more of information, like what is the next bubble and what is the money jump. Then I would reason on betting large or check-folding; still most of the time check/fold is the best option IMO. Where it Queens instead I would surely bet large, but I am giving the right odds to every hand that would call me here and most of the time I will be behind anyway.

To know the value of his hand, i think the best thing to do is to bet 1/3 of the pot on the flop. If he call, he has may-be a-k or a-q but if he re-raise, he could have a better pair and if he has a little pair he will fold on the flop.

I think this is make or break time. Yes you could be up against a bigger pair, but can’t afford to let another card come with any J,Q,K,or Ace killing your play. I lead out for half pot and fold to an all-in. If he calls, I’m scared, and I may check the turn, fearing he’s slow-playing me. Either way, I don’t like this situation, but I’m not giving up on this hand when it’s just about as good a flop as I could hope for.

well i kinda agree with the staff here with the check-fold… this is a tough hand where i say 99% of poker players are going to lose a lot of chips… the reraise preflop 3x from a tight player should be a fold every time youre not holding a big pair. yes, he could be holding aq or ak but this is where you have to respect his image.. furthermore, i think you need to make the decision PRE-flop here tho.. i dont understand calling 25% of your chips if theres a very good chance your behind or the flop is likely to hurt you… guess he was looking to flop the miracle set??

This is actually a tought situation, althought everyone wants to pretend its a no brainer. You want to believe he has AQ or AK (i guess the staffs idea he might have 99 or TT is a slim chance)… but most times here I think the quiet villain has JJ+.

So I think the PF call might have been a mistake… but since we made it, i dont see myself check/folding.

I think here I confidently lead out for 350k, and if I get called or raised Im not putting any more chips in.

In retrospect it seems like a bad play… but if our villain is holding AK or similar, its a fine play. Until we get raised.

Which leads me back to why I wouldnt play TT like this OOP. But since I did, Im not calling 25% of my stack PF OOP and then check folding just about the safest board out there… stop lying if you said you are.

If you are, you’re getting taken advantage of all day by people who smell your weakness, and if you are shoving your getting busted all day by tight solid players.

Best Play? Fold PF and remember not to raise so far OOP with mid PP.

2nd Best Play? Bet 350k, be prepared to fold.

3rd Best Play? Check/Fold

Donk Play? Shove

I once again disagree with the play up to our point of decision in the quiz. However, playing strictly to the scenario, I lead strong here, quite aware that he may have me beat already. If he re-raises, or even calls… I’m in a situation that I do not want to be in. Calls, I check the turn unless a 10 comes out. Raises, I fold.

Truth of the matter is though 10s from this position are a mother, and even though the flop looks good for us, we have no clue where we stand.

Have to lead strong to throw off the AK, AQ (I would def. re-raise with AK in his position pre-flop)… but JJ-AA seems muchmore likely and we are crushed.

forgot to mention… I would lay it down pre-flop if dude re-popped me like that. Purely situational, its just gonna be too tough to play it after the flop, especially if any over card drops.. and then even when we get the flop we got here, I’m still worried about a better pp.

I think leading strong has it’s merits, and I haven’t seen anyone mention it. If you lead strong after that flop, what is your opponent putting you on? Since you have about equal stack sizes, you are putting THEM to the test. Say they do have JJ or even QQ…that’s a really tough call for all their chips. No?

Certaily if they had AK/AQ they are done with the hand - and a smallish raise may tempt them to stay for the 6-outter or if they had clubs, maybe even give them good odds for shoving.

If you think playing TT is tough after this flop, you have to admit the only hand your opponent will auto-ship is KK and AA - with QQ, JJ, 99, 10 10, AK clubs, and AQ clubs they will have likely have a think before committing.

Now, I’m not saying betting strong is best. I’d have to have a feel for the table and tourney. As Harrington mentions in one of his books, ask yourself…”how do I feel?” If you are tired or bored or have other things on your mind, ship it and pray. If you feel you can survive and bring in a better position, then lay off this one and wait. So, perhaps the “solid” play is to lay back, but that may not fit this situation.

Im with JamesBong on this one. If youre going to make the call preflop, you have to lead here on the best possible board you could have asked for. Dont overcommit, but let your opponent know this looks good for you, and tell him to drop his AQ+. If he doesnt, youre probably up against a big pair and its check/fold time. Personally I bet 405,000, just to make it a 2/3ish type bet. Dont want to look weak, and Id like him to think of me as pot committed (though I am actually willing to fold to a raise) so he wont feel he can bluff me out.

Well, the problem with leading strong or leading half pot is that a bet of $350K pretty much commits you to the hand. If you lead out for that amount and he shoves, you’re looking at roughly calling $450k to play a pot of slightly under 2 million. Almost exactly 4 to 1. Can you fold your 10’s preflop? Probably not, but I chose check-fold. You’re almost positive you’re beaten based on your opponents play to this point, leading out will only put you in a position where you have to make an extremely difficult fold, or go home.

Also, to disagree with the staff, at a full table facing an early position raise, a tight player isn’t likely to re-pop with 99. If i got repopped, knowing my image is also tight, I would probably put this villain on AK, AQ, AA or KK, or MAYBE QQ (which is the case here as it turns out… sort of…) Maybe if we had re-raised pre-flop we could have pushed him off his QQ or JJ (or whatever he’s holding). But I think our pretty foolish out of position flat call here probably widens the range of our possible holdings in his eyes, meaning that if we chose to lead out, we’ll probably be met with a shove.

You are already pot-committed. You have $805, the pot is $672, and you flopped perfect. You gotta shove here and walk. Not even I can make this laydown - tens are pretty good. I would have shoved preflop instead of calling.

Why call preflop if you are not prepared to shove on the flop with 3 undercards? What you were looking to hit a set with your TT? Given the poor preflop call I have to say that you shove here and pray he has AK or AQ

you shove that!… then smash the crap out of your laptop… and maybe type something about his mother in the chatbox