Medium pair in the SB vs an all in and call, no limit tournament

I have to assume Mr. Button knows very well that he could have raised, to isolate the other player. I’m suspicious that he might actually want the call. So I’m not calling. What if he had raised, and gone all in? Does that make this pair of sevens more attractive? Less attractive?

It’s a pair of sevens. We’re not remotely short handed, nor in trouble from the blinds. I can’t find a reason to play this hand, nor a good way to play it, being out of position against the button.

I toss the sevens.

Its raise or fold. You dont want to be in a 3 way pot with 7’s. I can see the value in either move. It really depends if youre feeling like now is a time to make a play for some chips, or if you want to sit on your stack and take it easy. Mostly I would base this decision on how active Ive been recently. If Ive been raising a lot preflop, I drop this since Im more likely to be called. If Ive been decently quiet, Im probably ready to get in there and duke it out for some chips and hopefully get a knockout.

You are going to have to play to make the final table so it’s a matter of choosing when. With double the average stack and 4-5 tables left I am probably going to sit and wait for the average stack to get closer to mine, in the meantime playing only when it’s up to me to go heads up to try and eliminate a very short stack.

Since the button took care of that duty here, I’d let this go. But there is really no wrong play. Nothing wrong with calling and trying to flop a set to break the button with either.

I don’t agree that it’s raise or fold. If you call, you and the button will be “fighting” over an empty side pot. How often does somebody bluff (or even semi-bluff) into a bare side pot? I mean, yeah even if they get you to fold, they still have to beat the already all-in player. I’d say that there’s a pretty good chance that the person will cooperate and check it down, and if they bet at it (and you didn’t hit your set) there’s a very high chance that you are beat.

That said, I fold this, basically for the reasons suggested by OLPI. If the button folded, I would 100% be in this. But as played, I don’t see 77 as particularly helping to knock this player out (at the risk of potentially allowing the short stack to triple up).

I gotta say, I don’t like the fact that the poll always shows the answers in popular order before you vote.

toss it.

While UTG can really have any two cards, why get into a battle with another big stack with a marginal hand. It’s possible that the button is flatting with a monster (that is the only time I ever like to flat call in this situation).

If we truly can isolate, we are looking at a good situation where we are racing against their range and with all the dead money in the pot, we have good odds. But, what happens when we raise and the button shoves or flat calls? We’re going to be out of position with a very marginal hand.

If we flat call, I doubt we can expect cooperation in checking it down. It’s a huge pot (about $900k). So, I don’t like a flat call.

So, it’s either raise or fold. I just really don’t like the flat call on the button–could be a marginal hand or a monster and I’m really not sure I want to tangle with a stack that can cripple me here.

Calling leaves you too vulnerable as you are out of position…your 7’s are very likely to look weak after the flop if any A or K shows, etc. Even if you hit your set the dealer is likely to fold in the face of a huge raise, or a series of reasonable ones.

There’s really not enough money in the pot to justify an all-in bet.

It would be very reasonable to move all-in if the dealer didn’t have so much behind him. This would of course be an easy all-in call if there was far less money left behind both of you.

FOLD, I would only call if it was heads up. The sevens are not strong enough to be challenged by 3 callers. With a stack like 2.5 mil, I would just sit back and let them take each other out!

The answer is call. It’s such an easy check/fold if you don’t hit the set and the implied odds if you hit the set make it the right play with a deep stack.

I’m changing my vote to Thailer’s. He’s exactly right, and I belive we all overlooked the implied odds vs. stack sizes. You can buy one crummy lottery ticket, for 27K. You can afford it. Buy the ticket. You already know that if the set doesn’t arrive, you don’t like your hand. (You might play it anyway, but most probably not). But for 27K, it really is a bargain. You might even get two shots at this, if the other player checks behind. Bargain city. And Thailer is right.

The reason I have the big stack at the end is so I can play hands like this. If I miss trips there is still a decent chance I can check it down with the button and maybe even have my hand hold up, although unlikely. If we eliminate another player and I’m still the chip leader at my table I’m OK with the result.
And don’t forget that the button does not know that I don’t have a monster hand since I’m calling an all in and a call from the small blind. I believe unless he hits trips or at least top pair, top kicker he’s going to be perfectly content to check this down . Of course my answer changes completely if I’m not the chip leader and not already in a blind.

I thought the bet was for $270k, not $27k. For $27k, a call is a no brainer, you flop the 7 with high cards that make the dealer a hand, and you could win big with little risk.

At $270k,though….

It is 270 total but you have 30 in already and 2.2 mill left. It’s ok to call.

“In the actual hand you had 44 and you…”

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wow. I thought 77 was bad.

agree 100 percent with city born

yeah, raise or fold… but I said raise. worked to perfection.

Call

I’m a donk myself, so my thinking goes along the lines of flop a set and then triple the pot / or stack button

Hoping for a set !? With a pair its already looking like Christmas. Unless the caller is really devious.