AQ facing a re-raise from the BB, 6 max tournament

Game type: 6 max no limit tournament on Full Tilt
Stage of tourney: Middle stages
Avg stack: 6k
Your image: Fairly tight
Opponent’s image: Selectively aggressive
Your hand: A♥Q♠
The setup: You’ve been playing fairly tight since being moved to this table a few orbits ago, as you’ve been card dead and the rest of the table has been pretty active. this hand you’re dealt AQo UTG and you raise to 288. The two players to your immediate left call and the SB folds. The BB raises to 1200.
The BB hasn’t been terribly active but the few moves they’ve made have been big ones.
What’s your play with your strong ace?
12.18.07 / 1am
I wouldnt be re-raising at this stage with AQo. If he shoves Id have to call then feel like an idiot if and when he shows a better hand.
Ive only invested 288 so there are plenty of better hands to be making that move with. Plus mid way through a 6 seat tournament youre still likely to get shifted round quite a bit so I dont think appearing weak to this guys raise is a massive problem. Fold
12.18.07 / 3am
Easy fold. You’re way behind or slightly behind and then there’s the other limpers who might actually have something.
12.18.07 / 3am
You cant call cos youll give odds to the other 2 villains. You could fold but thats very weak.
Shoving will look like ‘please-fold-please-fold-please-fold-i-have-AK’.
4-betting to 3300+ is so strong here. he almost HAS to put you on QQ+. Also considering that he might be making a play here, giving you fold equity, this is probably a reraise.
12.18.07 / 6am
I just throw it away.
Of course, I usually only play 6-handed in cash, 10 handed in tours, so that migth have an impact. But c’mon, assuming he is bluffing and putting 50BB at risk with AQ, when you are a tigth player raising from UTG and still gets reraised?
12.18.07 / 8am
Allllllll-inski.
Hes making a play, and if hes not, im hoping for JJ, TT, or A/Q which are all easily within his range. Cant get pushed around at a 6-max table. You wanna mess around with me, be prepared to put a lot on the line.
If I win, the table will have to show my raises a little more respect and I can start playing a more open game.
12.18.07 / 9am
You raised utg (ok it’s only five handed) and you’ve been playing tight? There’s absolutely no need at this stage of the tournament for you to raise with anything other than a premium hand here utg. Your range has to be ATs+/AJ+/KQs/any pp? Obviously in your range are hands like AA/KK/QQ. Your villain is risking 1/5 of their stack on this move?
Sure, it could just be a move, but his range pretty much seems to me to be AK/QQ+ and since we have an A and a Q, I am putting him on AK/KK. Against this very tight range, we’re a massive dog. Yeah, it is possible it’s just a move, but why here, why now? Yeah, if it works, he picks up a nice little chunk of change, but if he’s wrong, he’s just lost 1/5 of his stack or more.
Sure, re-raising here is an option and looks incredibly strong, but we’re not folding out AK/KK which is really the two cards I put him on here.
I like a fold here. No sense going broke with AQ just to defend your image. If the guy tries to come after you again, maybe that’s the time to take a stand and make him reconsider, and then you could take your stand with any two cards (obviously with some exception–don’t take a stand with A2 for example).
It’s kind of like that old saying, hurt me once, shame on you, hurt me twice shame on me. If you let the guy keep coming after you, then shame on you. There’s no better feeling in the world than taking a stand with a hand like JTs, have your villain make the call with AQ, and you outdraw them and take a massive pot. Or, you finally do catch a hand and you bust the guy when they pot commit themselves with J8o.
As far as the quiz today though, fold and make a note. If you see it again or a couple more times, then make a stand.
12.18.07 / 11am
Ally, I hear what youre saying, but to me, this reads as “We all know youre playing tight, and the other guys are loose and calling to bust you, therefore youre all probably going to fold to my reraise since it looks like a legitimately strong hand”. But with us, and two other callers in the hand, and him being out of position, he cant call with a hand like 99-JJ or A/10+, he’s got to repop or fold. That widens his 3-betting range, and of course, theres always the possibility its purely a move. At the very least, with a reraise on his part,if we call he knows he looks strong and has a better chance to take it down after the flop.
This is 6-max and WE’RE the ones with the legit hand, time to take down this pot and/or show these guys we’re not getting taken off our hands.
12.18.07 / 12pm
Tournament decisions, once you get to the middle stages and beyond, need to be made by stack sizes.
At this table the only thing I really know is that there is one stack I don’t want to be tangling with, and this player is it. You’ve only put a few relative chips in the pot and can easily let this go to the large reraise. You will still have a strong stack at this table.
Doyle Brunson wrote in both SS1 and SS2 that he has gotten broke with AQ more times in his life than with any other hand.
If you reraise all-in here you only get called by aces or kings. So you are risking your tournament to pick up about 25% of an average stack, and it won’t even affect anybody at the table if you win. That’s a foolish proposition from a risk/reward standpoint.
12.18.07 / 12pm
This is actually a pretty good quiz today. I like the logic of everyone’s thinking here, as there is some very reasonable outcomes from folding, calling and raising. Only all-in seems out of the question for me.
Overall though, I think calling is your best option here. You have enough of a stack that you can certainly get away from it if you need to and only be just under average stack size. But it’s also a big enough call, that I don’t think you’ll see the 2 players to your left call you unless they were slow-playing a monster, even with the odds they’d be getting to call. Your smooth call on a re-raise looks strong.
If he checks the flop, I push on anything other than a king hitting. If he pushes on the flop, I’ll fold and still have a nice stack. It doesn’t do much for my image, but there’s a reasonable chance he’s bluffing here and my call might slow him down enough for me to take it back from him (if he’s at all worried about my tight image).
12.18.07 / 1pm
You played a dog hand, and got re raised. Get outta there. Fold. So you played the principal dog hand, the AQo? It’s still a dog hand. You shouldn’t have done it with that hand, and you shouldn’t have done it utg.
Sayonara, fold the hand, you’re still alive.
12.18.07 / 1pm
Just a side comment, I think it’s a mistake to think of this move as from UTG. While technically true, this is a short-handed table. One could just as easily (and correctly) say that the raise was made from the hijack.
That said, AQo is a perfectly valid hand to open raise with. Without a real read on this player, it is difficult to say whether I would fold or raise. As indicated by the staff, unless you feel that the BB is making a move here a significant portion of the time, you need to lay this down. I voted fold because like I said… I don’t have a real read.
12.18.07 / 1pm
I think the strongest argument for folding here is your investment in this marginal (at best) situation. If you have put 1/3 of your stack in already, well, it’s go time. But, sheesh, for 288, it’s time to back off. The thing that scared me the most were the two live players behind. I like calling to put my opponent to a test on the flop (esp. if KK looks likely), but with two behind you further increase your chances that you won’t be able to take it away on later streets. Imagine Vill 2 and Vill 3 feel priced in with their 66 or JQ, then the flop comes 6QJ.
But, perhaps the biggest factor for me folding in this spot is my position. I will have terrible relative and actual position after the flop. That is, BB is likely to bet out…then where will I be…folding that’s where. Even if an Ace comes…am I looking into the eyes of AK. Yikes…too scary. Fold.
12.18.07 / 6pm
Stupid question - where do you get the DHQ answer in the new format? I just get directed to these comments when I vote.
FWIW, this seemed like a pretty standard fold.
12.19.07 / 2am
Echo Anonymous–I don’t see the vote results or the opinion of the staff anymore when I vote…
I voted fold.
12.19.07 / 9am
This is a fold. Guy reraises out of position with three to act? No thanks.
OOP squeeze? pshh, good luck, take the 288, catch ya later. literally.
shove with AQ off? umm, no.
12.21.07 / 7am
Whilst there is a chance this could be a squeeze I don’t think he is in the right situation to do it because of our position and image. I think BB has at least a pair or worst case AK. Whilst we have position, if we call then one or both of the others could call so I fold.
Not many chips lost.
As for the comments about raising with AQ being stupid I think that view is way too tight in a 6 handed game.

12.18.07 / 1am
I think your opponent’s range here would be mostly something like AK/TT+ and at best you are racing against TTorJJ. Also the fact that you have been fairly quiet over the last few orbits leads me to believe a majority of the time here you are an underdog. Fold