Tourney / NL

Weak ace preflop with the chip lead, PokerStars Sunday Millions

Game type: Poker Stars Sunday Millions NLHE tournament
Stage of tourney: Deep in the money
Avg stack: ~750k
Your image: Aggressive
Opponent’s image: quiet but won the last hand raising the BB from the SB.
Your hand: A♦6♦

This hand is taken from actual game play in the Poker Stars Sunday Million ($500 buy in) tournament on 10/28/07. This hand took place between MrKorvOla and luckyfire4; you will be standing in for MrKorvOla

The setup: You’ve been very aggressive the last couple of orbits. You picked up a couple hundred thousand a few hands ago by making a big call preflop in middle position with KQo and have raised a few other hands preflop, winning pots without going to showdown.

You are currently in about a 3-way tie for the chip lead with 34 players remaining. The next bubble is at 27th.

This hand, the table folds to you and you make it 3x to go. The SB folds and the BB, who had been quiet but won the last pot when the table folded to him and he raised the BB, thinks for a second and then shoves.

What’s your play with your weakish ace?


12 COMMENTS  (Jump to comment form)

Geronimo
10.29.07 / 3am

Why not just push pre-flop? Avoid the hard decision if one of them push back. If you know they’re capable of re-stealing just deny them that possibility?

Anonymous
10.29.07 / 5am

“Why not just push pre-flop?” (Im assuming you mean, making the shove rather than a standard 3x blind raise)

Because you still have the SB and the BB to act. By making the 3x raise, you still give yourself the option to pull out of the race if both blinds shove.

Anonymous
10.29.07 / 5am

because shoving 1.6 million into 70k is spew…

Geronimo
10.29.07 / 5am

If you push pre-flop, you’re not risking 1.6 Million to win 70K because you have them both covered. You’re only risking about 500K.

It might even make them lay down a few hands that beat you and they would have immediately pushed against your apparent steal: 22, 33, 44, 55. Those hands do very well to push with, but are quite bad to call a push (only a small favorite against any 2 cards and with ICM in mind probably a lay-down).

Since you’re getting really good odds to call if they would re-steal you will almost always call with your semi-decent A6s. So why not push? Good chance they’ll lay down 22-77 and A7-A9 which beat you?

Cristianos
10.29.07 / 5am

I dont think shoving pre-flop would be too bad, but a 3x raise has more value, since you may have both players to fold most hands, you’ve given yourself the right odds to make the right call against any reasonalbe hand; ans should someone just call you, you have a chance to see the flop and then decide if you want to invest the remaining 350K left for your opponents all-in. Futhermore, after the flop you will be in position and might get a second chance to make your opponentes fold.

MrKorvOla
10.29.07 / 8am

Your analysis of the hand is pretty much the same that I made in that hand. = )

MrKorvOla
10.29.07 / 8am

I mean the analysis that the DHQ staff made…

onlinepokerincome.com
10.29.07 / 10am

I’d dump it

there are only two players I am interested in tangling with at this table and that’s player A and player C - I’m not blowing off chips to anybody else by losing a race

against those two players I will call an all-in shove with about 90% of all holdings

other than that I’m shutting down shop (unless dealt premium cards) until some point where chip stacks get more even again, and then it’s game on again - this will likely be well after the next bubble

Pagster74
10.29.07 / 1pm

This is definitely is a judgement call on how you feel you look at the table an how you feel your opponent would play against your image. MrKorvOla abvious made the right read on the situation. A-6 suited is defintely a good hand and even if his read was incorrect he would still be above the average stack.

Good Job!

Dan_L
10.29.07 / 5pm

Korv0la, since you’re commenting on the hand, can you respond to the question of why not shove to begin with here? Is that something you would do sometimes/ usually/ never? Any specific reason you didn’t do it on this hand?

Raoeoiku
10.29.07 / 11pm

Raising 3xbb then folding to either of these stacks is pretty weak. It would be ridiculous to even think of folding in this spot against luckyfire

jspring86
10.30.07 / 8pm

I don’t understand why you would shove to begin with. Why risk over 400K in chips if both blinds pick up hands and you walk into a raise, re-raise situation from the blinds, here you make a standard raise and then if one of the blinds shove or both or you walk into the first situation I mentioned, you now have a chance to re-evaluate the situation and make a good read which clearly MrKorvOla did in the actual hand. I think calling the all-in the absolute correct play, but shoving to begin with doesn’t seem appealing to me.

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