February 10, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz

Game type: $50 + 5 SNG
Stage of tourney: Bubble
Avg stack: 3375
Your image: TAG
Opponent’s image: Loose aggressive
Your hand: 5♦6♦

The setup: You’ve played very strong poker so far and you’re doing well on the bubble of this SNG. Your opponent has been loose and lucky, loves to draw (and hit) and has been fairly aggressive. You open limp with 56 of diamonds, the button limps, SB folds and the BB checks. The flop is a beauty:

6♥6♣A♥

You lead out for just under pot and your opponent calls on the button. The BB folds. The turn is 8♦. You bet 700 and they call again. The turn is another 8♣. You bet 1000 on the river and they promptly put you all in. Should you call?


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duffman


due 2 the aggressive nature of my opponent i call, i doubted that he had an 8 or aces and seems i was wrong.

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James Staines


So hard to put some one on runner runner

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Gijs


Ugh, what a crazy hand… Due to him limping preflop, I really don’t believe he has Aces. So what could he have:

- A pocket pair higher than 8′s: nah, he would have had to play it really weird to call with that two times and now put me all in
- A missed flush draw: possible, but it would be a ballsy bluff, unless he has:
- A missed flush draw with the 8 of hearts. It’s really the only hand that I can put him on that makes sense. And, unfortunately, it beats us.

The pot odds here are approximately 1 to 3.5. Personally, although it’s close, I believe he has that 8 of hearts often enough to justify folding. Still, I believe a call wouldn’t be horrible either; that would be my action if I believe he’s tilting and wants to make a crazy move here.

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Gijs


heh, funny how I seem to be the only one in favour of folding (aside from the staff). Well, it’s a close one I guess…

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Bob


hmm clos I call here but I fear the 8h x Kh-7h.

If villain is a good LAG i may be inclined to fold as most of his range doesnt that we beat doesnt do this.
If villain is a bad player I call, becuase they dont undertand the nature of when to bluff…….

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Geronimo


-you limp UTG when the blinds are this high. If you raise preflop, LAG player would put you on AT+ or 88+. Now he’s putting you on AXs, low PP or big suited connectors. He could limp in with anything on the BTN given his image.
-On the flop he could be hanging on with Xh8h, then on the turn he hits his 8 and gets more outs if you have an A. On the river he hits the bigger full house and value pushes which is likely to be called because of his image. This scenario is not very likely because he’s not getting implied odds to call on the flop so if he has 2 hearts he’d rather raise the flop.
-Your 1/3 pot river bet looks like a blocking bet and leaves you with a stack that can still fight. On top of that we’re on the bubble so he thinks you will only call with X8, A6 or AA. Those are all unlikely holdings (given your play and your image), so he figures a bluff at you is very likely to work.
-He might also have a 6 himself thinking he’s milking you on the flop and turn and then pushing on the river to get maximum value from his full house.

Since a bluff is so likely and the other likely possibility would mean a split pot I think you should call. If you would have checked on the river, the call would be easier (because a bluff is a lot more likely then).

Looking at what really happened now it seems the staff knew what really happened before they made their analysis. The flop call is just a very weird play. Then, the villain got lucky and hit his runner, runner.

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John B.


I smell A8, but I’m calling. I’m far from being a math geek, but aren’t I pretty much pot committed at this point??

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drhoho


On the bubble I would have liked an overbet on turn. The flop call smells like flushdraw, take it down on turn and save chips.
I call here, can’t get away when no heart hit

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Ally


I’m calling. With this being the bubble, he can easily be representing that he’s got a 6 hoping that we can fold our A-x here since A-x really isn’t beating anything.

The only hands we’re losing to are A-6 (ok, if that isn’t a cooler), AA (also another sick cooler), A8, and 8-x of hearts.

It certainly feels like we’re beat here and I’m thinking runner runner 8 does something for our villain. And, while I hate being the bubble boy, I really don’t want to be blown off my hand by the person that chased and hit without the proper odds.

There is a reason that we bet and charge our opponents to catch us. And, when our villain does not have the proper odds (both pot odds + implied odds), then I guess I really don’t mind it too much when he hits and takes my stack. It’s like raising with AA from UTG and some dude calls for half his stack with 66 and flops a set. Ok, so you double through me, but you had nowhere near the correct odds to call there.

I think that’s the case here. If our villain did in fact catch running 8′s to pass us, then good for him, pay the man.

As upset as I’d be if I lost the hand, I’d be even more upset if I folded here and was shown KJhh.

The fact is, it is very difficult for us to call a shove here without a 6 or a 8 which makes it all the better reason for our villain to shove here on a bluff.

For whatever it’s worth, I think I’d slow down on the turn and let my villain bet. If I check there, I’m saying that I don’t like my weak A and that I’m afraid of his possible trips. Even though he’s on a draw here, I think the spot is inviting enough for him to try and take it down right here with a bet. Then, I can rama jama with my check/raise and let him call off with his pair and draw here. If he does check behind, when the 8 comes, I’m pretty sure I can check/call his river bet and worst case is that I’m still alive in the tourney.

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AAAA


Raise preflop and attack the bubble. The way you played it, I would call the push if your beat gg start a new one.

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jacktensooooted


First of all, u playing 4 handed and u r utg u have 2 moves u either raise r fold preflop that should have solved your problem right there. Secondly your flop bet was too big with trips right there i probably bet half the pot to see where i stand. Obvisiously he calls and on turn i bet out about 3/4 of the pot and if he calls and hits the 8 on river and puts u all in u have to call. can’t put him on an 8 there. You cannot be result oriented the way u played it u should have beat him in the pot.

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AAAA


If your not gonna raise preflop I would play it like this. You said your opponeant is aggressive throw some rope out and check/raise the flop and if he calls your c/r push the turn hard. If he checks behind you on the flop, bet the turn about 3/4 and if he calls, I would check/call the river when the 8 hits incase he has a 8 and by doing this you are giving him a chance to bluff if he missed his draw.

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NineLions


Ugh is right.

I expected an Ace at best, I didn’t expect him to be that loose and lucky (flush draw on flop, calls against pot odds, fills runner-runner higher full house).

The big thing here is the bubble. In a MTT you don’t worry so much about the bubble, but in a STT it’s the single most important point of the tourney.

I voted call, but looking again at the remaining stack, fold is the better play, regardless of the outcome. In reality, unless I could convince myself maybe he’s on A8, I’d probably call though and lose anyway.

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Rob


Gotta fold this one, hitting the money is my first priority, and I’d still be well placed. that and the paired board.

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genevee


if only 3 places are payed, i fold. i´m still even in chips with the SB and BB and being payed is most important to me.

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