Overpair facing a re-raise HU, High Stakes NL

Well, I’d be interested to see how you could play this hand any differently….

I forgive you for thinking you were ever up at any stage of the game.

However, a gambling man would know that you are still a 10% chance of snatching this pot (if a J or 3 hit on the river completing your full boat)……….

Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing 4s 3s 7d 3d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Jd Jh 4 9.09 40 90.91 0 0.00 0.091
5s 6c 40 90.91 4 9.09 0 0.00 0.909

I’m calling here every time. I think it’s a trivially easy call at the odds we’re being given. Basically, the only things you could possibly be up against that are beating you are 56 and a flopped set which hit a boat or quads on the turn. Neither of these is terribly likely.
But there’s so much he could have here that you’re ahead of, from 78 to a lower overpair, to a combo draw to even a naked flush draw.
This is an instacall. I’m definitely willing to pay off Lars’s very lucky 56 in this spot.

No-brainer call here. How often do you get a halfway decent pocket pair heads-up? If he caught a better hand, oh well. I just can’t toss these cards here. If I did, I shouldn’t be playing heads-up!

John is right on.

His call on the flop is what made things scary - with one overcard and a flush draw he’d probably push there just to either end it or cripple you further.
I voted call the way it played out - but trying to trap with J-J is not an easy task, that’s actually my least favorite hand because you have to play it, but it’s so vulnerable. A preflop push is about the best you can do with it - as it played out, there was really no way to get away from the hand; not to the flopped straight…

I can’t see not calling here. There is just too much that we beat here to lay down an overpair. Let’s look at some ranges:

Preflop: our opponent raises–almost any two cards.
We re-raise: Ok, so we have a pp, a decent ace, or two broadway? Maybe a hand like JTs or QJs?

On the flop, we make a standard cb–this doesn’t change our range at all. Our opponent calls. What can he call with that he doesn’t raise with? The straight makes sense, but there are a lot of other hands as well: he could float with air on a super dry flop. he could call with any pair; a hand like 87 or 97 makes sense. he may flat call with two overs and a flush draw. He probably doesn’t have a hand like a pair and a draw or a combo draw as he would probably raise these hands.

On the turn, we fire again. Could we just be firing another bullet with air? Possibly. There is nothing on the board that could have helped a hand that re-raised preflop. Yeah, it’s possible we hit a set and then filled up, but pretty unlikely. Our hand is either an overpair to the board or complete air.

Our opponent jams. Ok, so I don’t think he has complete air here. He’d want to at least have some outs in case he does get called. It’s possible he’s got trips; it’s possible he’s got a flush draw–maybe overs and a flush draw–ATdd for example; maybe he’s hit that three. Against his range, we really can’t like our spot, but I can’t see folding here getting the price we’re getting. We are crushing 99, 97, etc, and we’re still ahead of AQdd or any other draw he might jam. We’re only crushed by the straight, trips, or a full house.

I guess I just can’t see a fold here.

nobody is folding JJ in this spot, heads up against an aggressive opponent. Lots of hands you can beat, and solid edge against all of villain’s semi-bluffing hands

So - everybody’s calling, and everybody’s “oh well”-losing.
We call this wisdom?
Fold.

“Wait for a better spot”… come on now, this is a cash game… if you get stacked here, buy in again. If the move is +EV, you do it, you don’t worry about “living to fight another day”.

In this situation, calling is +EV if we win the showdown (about) 35% of the time. Do we think we’ll win here 35% of the time? It’s reasonable.

Could it be a total bluff? Less likely than normal due to our stack size, but it can’t be ruled out. How about a semi-bluff? Well, according to the provided “Opponent’s Image”, he’s clearly capable of that. A pocket pair lower than ours (that didn’t make a set)? Sure. And even in the situations where we’re behind, we (likely) have 4 outs on the river.

Without any sort of real history on the opponent, I’m not sure what the probability would be… we’re probably in the right neighborhood though. In practice, though, I bet you see very few players lay this down, with these odds.

Hmm, I’m usually more aggressive that the rest here, but I voted fold on this one.

Yes, JJ is a great hand, especially on a low flop. Yes there are lots of hands we’re ahead of.

But at this point, for whatever reason, it looked like a perfectly played 65s to me. Maybe because I’ve been on both ends of this play myself; calling a raised pot with low suited connectors as well as losing with overpairs to low flops that gave someone a set, straight or two pair.

Honestly, I find it VERY hard to compare this hand to anything ive ever played.

The $ amounts at this level change the game, not to mention the skill of players (generally).

Its very hard to fold here..and I think most times you wouldnt even think hard enough to make a case for it, probly calling right away.

The problem here is that I dont think you can really fold, it really doesnt make alot of sense in the long run. Folding such a favorite(so it seems) for this amount of money ..folding is well.. its a gut feeling imo.

I dont analyzing this hand because really you cant say that This is a 100% fold position. This situation has to be based probly 100% on the read you have on your opponent. Its a gut feeling fold in which alot of players may actually lay it down. But you cant blame anyone for calling this.

wow, what a lopsided poll.

i just don’t think you’re beating very much. i think that if this were 99, most people would fold in a heartbeat. yet making it 99 only adds two hands to your opponent’s range - tens and jacks - that are a problem for you, and neither of those are likely given the action.

is everyone quick calling with 99 too? if not, what makes JJ that much better? do you really think 99 and 10 10 are likely hands for your opp in this spot?

I would call just the same with 99 1010 mostly. Also it adds more then 2 hands to be scared of, it ads Any J and any 10 (if you have 99) an out.