February 10, 2012

Daily Hand Quiz

Thanks to HighStakesReport for the hand history.

Game type: 200/400 NL Cash Game online
Your image: LAG
Misc notes:
Your hand: K♠10♠

This hand is taken from actual game play at the 200/400 6 max table at Full Tilt. This hand took place between pros sbrugby and durrrr. You’ll be standing in for sbrugby.

The setup: durrrr has been ruling this table and another one for a monster session so far, when the following hand comes up.

You raise UTG to $1,400 with your suited K 10. The table folds around to durrrr in the BB, who re-raises to $4,900 and you call the $3,500. You flop top:

J♥7♥K♣

durrrr elects to lead out for $7,800, not too far off pot.

You and durrrr are very familiar with each other as players, and both of you expect each other to make strong moves with a wide range of hands. For the sake of this quiz, let’s also say that the last time this betting pattern unfolded between the two of you (you raise pf, he re-raises OOP, you call, he leads out on the flop), you flat called the flop and then folded the turn on a pretty ragged board.

What’s your play with top pair?

Discuss your thoughts on this quiz in our forums – Top pair facing a raise, high stakes no limit cash, or in the comments below.


7 COMMENTS  (Jump to comment form)

John B.


I’m raising large with top pair and decent kicker. I can’t be afraid of “what actually happened” happening.

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matt tag


I voted raise small with top pair, he could be leading out w/ middle pair (Jx) and I want to see where I’m at. I would have probably folded to the reraise all in – I don’t like to go broke on a pair, esp if my kicker is only fair.

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Cristiano


It is a fold/raise large situation. There are very few cards I like to see comming since my opponent is loose. He will probably raise on the turn if i flat call, and I’d rather see where I stand right now. I’d raise some 18K or fold depending on my table image at this moment.

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Eric P.


After a long hesitation, I voted to fold. I don’t see my opponent betting the pot on the flop with something worse than KT. I was putting him on something like AK or a flush draw. The reality was even more insidious, which conforted me with my decision :)

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Ally


I think there are a couple of key points here which help our decision process.

1) durrrr has been ruling the tables–from this I would imply that he is playing very aggressively and forcing his opponents to make ridiculously tough decisions.

2) the fact that this is four handed means that the play is going to be much more wide open. sbrugby isn’t necessarily raising from UTG, he is esentially raising from the cutoff. Since he’s raising with position, he can have a much larger range of hands than your typical UTG raise and as such, durrrr can have a much wider 3-betting range preflop.

The problem here is that at some point you have to make a stand against the crazy aggressive player. I’m guessing this isn’t the first time sbrugby has been 3-bet preflop by durrrr and I’m guessing that durrrr is leading almost any flop. An earlier poster described durrr’s lead bet as having to be a very strong hand or a strong draw. Not necessarily. durrrr is probably leading about 80%-90% of flops after making his 3-bet preflop. And, the times that he doesn’t lead would tend to make me think that he flopped huge.

I think we’re in a pretty tough spot here since we really don’t know much about durrr’s hand yet. He could hold KJ/KQ/AK types of hands. He could have a set. But, he could also hold a hand like AQ/AJ/AT, or any pp, or even two suited connectors or 1 -gappers.

We’ve got a good hand, but our hand is very vulnerable. Any heart, A, Q, T, 9, J are going to be scare cards for your hand and may allow you to be pushed off the best hand. And, if not, these cards would most likely kill the action from your opponent.

So, even though there’s a chance our opponent has us crushed, I think we’re probably ahead of his range here with top pair and that we have to raise to protect our hand.

He’s going to shove a combo draw so I really can’t see us folding even when we are crushed. Four handed, to hold top pair, decent kicker after the flop is pretty strong and you’re definitely ahead of his range here.

(If the flop actually came KJ6, the action would play out exactly the same way, but durrrrr may actually fold on the flop after your raise.)

We’re occassionally getting stacked off here, but I think we’re ahead enough to make a raise here.

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Bob


We have someone that actually thinks at this site here!
Well explained here Ally

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matt harrell


when i have king ten and get reraised im thinking i might be dominated preflop.Now if he checked the flop i would of been swetting it becuz if he had something big he wouldn’t wanna scare me out of the pot. If i raise i might scare him out of the pot. if the turn doesn’t improve my semi strong king. then i would assume if he bets half the pot or more then i am out kicked out just beat by a better hand.(a,a k,k k,q k,j j,j or 7,7. If the flush hit the board by the river.I might make it look like i don’t have and go all in to make him fold.( try it some time) I almost always fold weak kicker top pairs on the turn. Don’t be a river rat.

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