This hand was based on a submission from DHQ user Patrick – thanks for the quiz, sir.

Game type: Wolrd Series of Poker Main Event
Your image: Passive
Stage of tourney: Right on the first bubble
Avg stack: ~220k
Misc notes: UTG has raised the last nine hands
Your hand: J♣J♦
The Setup: You’ve played your heart out to get to this point in the WSOP main event – and if 3 more players got knocked out, you make the money.
The UTG player is a wild man who is running over the table and taking full advantage of the bubble. He has gone all in the last 9 hands.
This hand, he does it again from UTG. The table folds around to you and you look down and see JJ. Your stack is well above average. What’s your play?
Discuss your thoughts on this quiz in our forums – Pocket pair against a maniac preflop, WSOP main event bubble, or in the comments below.
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I fold. There will be a lot of chances to get my money in, when I pick the spot(s), rather than the villain picking the spot.
There are only four things you can do with pocket Jacks, and they’re ALL WRONG! (seems like it anyway).
I’m on the bubble at the WSOP? I probably have to call with QQ. I probably have to call with AK. But do I really have to call with JJ? I can even see raising with JJ. But call? No. For me, a clear fold.
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JJ beats any random hand at least 3 times out of 4. So it depends on your goal. Did you come to the WSOP to become world champion, then CALL. If you just came here thanks to a qualifier and you’re happy to get some nice money then instafold.
No right answer I’m afraid.
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I vote ‘call’ here, because I believe it gives +EW (expected winnings, different from EV). If you call and win, you’ll be chip-leader and have a great shot at getting very far in this tournament. To me, that’s more important than reaching the money. However, I doubt whether I would have the guts to make this call in real life…
Question to the staff: what actually happened?
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Fold JJ against an obviously cocky maniac? I don’t think so. If he actually has a hand (this time) – good for him. If the Jacks hold up, I’ll have a MASSIVE chip lead. Then if I fail to take it down with all those chips, it’ll be my own @#*&%$ fault.
What “actually” happened (heh): The BB called our all-ins and flipped over pocket Queens. No help after that, so he tripled up and went on to win – hahahaha.
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Very tough to fold.
How much money are you garaunteed if you reach the bubble?
There are too few random hands that make me a big underdog. I would lean towards calling, even if I got there through a qualifier.
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How many players are left in the tournament at this stage?
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It’s an easy call. You have the 4th or 5th best starting hand against an obvious maniac. When will you get a better chance to win a huge pile of chips, be the mountain high chipleader and slow down that moron who paralize you? WSOP isn’t for somebody who is acountant at heart. If you want to earn a little money with no risk get a job.
What if you hold pocket aces? The whole humble oppinion section would be the same except the overcard thing. Do you fold to get back your money and a little? If the answer is yes it means you’ve made a serious mistake before the cards were dealt. You paid the buy in. Why do you play money what you can’t afford to lose? How can you make a living if you give up the best chance for final table money? What can you do at all if it’s so easy to intimidate you? If you win the WSOP will you live in a bunker? With so much money there is a risk to be robed or even killed.
Poker is a gambling game. So, gamble! Especially if the odds are heavily on your side.
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If you’re a skilled player there is no need to gamble here as you have a tonne of play with 125 BB. Fold the Jacks and wait for a better spot to play some poker. Once the bubble bursts the shorter stacks will be pushing with marginal hands and you will be in a postition to capitalize on that without risking your tournament and you can then outplay the maniacs. However, the further below average my stack size is, the more I consider calling here.
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I disagree with Morty, if your a skilled player you gambling here is the right thing to do.
However if you satelitted to this tourny then its very hard to call..and I would fold IM sure if i satelited.
I think this is an insanely tough position..but ultimately the decision should be simple:
If you can live with getting bad beat or getting unlukcy (him having AA/KK/QQ) and bubling out then I think you have to call here.
If you cant live with it then fold and make it to the bubble.
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Kevin, I’m not sure I understand your post. It’s an easy fold for me here regardless if I bought in or not. You have to keep in mind that this is the WSOP ME bubble which means there is 800 players remaining so there is A LOT of play left and doubling up on this hand is going to do little to help you go deep but could end your tournament right there. I would make a vague comparison to doubling up on the first hand of a small/fast tournament – it sure feels good but does nothing for your results if you can’t back it up. If he has one overcard, which is very likely, then it’s not worth it to me – but I’m a big proponent of tournament strategy versus the right mathamatical decision every time. If you are confident that you can continue to build your stack (which is well above average) by playing poker then there is no need to go into gamble mode at this point. You need to get lucky in any tournament and it’s amplified in the ME but I believe you are better off setting yourself up and letting luck come to you rather than trying to force it. That’s what I mean about a skilled player.
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OK, you fold. You missed a 70-80% chance dubble up, but you have the seat and the chip. It’s 100%.
What will happen? Sooner or later the impatience or the greed will win or somebody get pocket aces or kings. There will be a double up. Or two if player A is a world class moron. And the easy money dried up. You can use your knowledge finally. Against player B(runson), F(arha), G(reenstein) or somebody else who attended in High Stakes Poker at least once. It has a decent chance in the bubble of the best paying championship. Or you can be lucky and have to play against casual players. They can out kick, out draw or trap you, too. But the most annoying things are the runner-runners and the Ace On The River. Player G can talk about it a lot. These nasty things happens to him and the non mentioned world class players all the times.
You need a lot of luck if you want more than sneak into the bubble. Unfortunately we can’t count it as precisely as the chances of a JJ against a random hand. The best way to lose a lot of money if you wait for the 100% all the time.
Finally: If you are in the WSOP in such heights does it worth to technically give up the chance to be the chip leader and kick some world famous ass for several month rent maybe once in a lifetime?
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I think it really does matter if you bought in or not. If you bought in you..I hope have the bankroll to sustain the loss of the buyin. If you are going to go deep into this tourny you WILL have to make a move like this at somepoint and you WILL have to race to make it deep.
If you got here for free then the bubble money is huge for you.. there is no reason to make this move now.
BUT.. if you didnt satelite in you have an amazing oppurtunity to give yourself a great stack to go very deep.
Hes gone allin the last 9 hands.. He could have anything.. If your not calling here when your playing to go deep in this tourny your making a terrible play imo. Its very likely that in those 9 hands hes had 2 cards under Jacks.
My skilled player comment was a bit dumb i know…What i really want to say is if your here to win this is the point to grow your stack. Im not a person who says math> tourny strategy either.. IMO tourny strategy would say call here.
IMO any strategy our thought process that didnt take Money into consideration would say call here. If you can afford to gamble here (With probly very good odds) then you should do it.
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I first said call. I would have bet if given the opportunity, so I am comfortable putting my money in here. I ahve read all the commentary, and am not certain that putting my money in is the way to win. Bubble or not, its about gambling, this is a good opportunity to move up to a winning position and I would be foolish to pass this by.
Hopefully, I will think of ll this detail next time when I say:
I CALL.
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i would love 2 know what actually happened
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The biggest point here for me is that he has _raised_ the last nine hands. That implies there were no all-ins. Honestly I wish a lot of these quizzes had more details on play style. But to raise steadily that long and suddenly jam is telling. If it were in the first couple days it would be easy to chalk it up to a bad player or a LAGger trying to buff up early but this is the WSOP ME bubble — there’s only so many players here who didn’t have a plan to get there. The raise-raise-raise. . . -all-in sounds like he’s exploiting the wild image for a well-timed serious hand, at least AK.
I still voted call. That’s a really close decision, but I’m seeing enough AK-AQ-TT-99 pushes (due to the bubble) that I’m willing to go. IRL I might not have the balls to lay my tourney on the line with JJ at this point, but strategically I’d say the double-up now makes a nice deep (tight) run into the money almost guaranteed, which in the long run is worth it. Amateur or not I’ll stick to the “play to win it” philosophy.
In hindsight knowing it was Jamie Gold (assuming that comment was legit) I’d drop it — his play might have plenty of issues, but this is obviously him trying to get a loose call on a premium hand. But I don’t think anyone at that WSOP knew enough about him to pick that up (or else Cunningham would’ve slammed him later on).
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Halo, it says he’s *gone all in* on the last nine hands.
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Oops. That certainly changes things.
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So did we ever find out a result fo rthis hand??
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Call, you wanna win the WSOP you gotta Gamble this looks like a perfect spot to for it.
If you dont wanna Win the WSOP why then why the heck are you sitting on the table in the first place?
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What happened was I called, and I won the hand when he flipped 79.
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This would be the quickest call i ever made in my life. fish hooks are the 4th or 5th best starting hand in poker. HE WENT ALL IN 9 TIMES IN A ROW. BUST THIS DONKEY. I know its for your tornement and i have been knocked out many times with jacks. But if you don’t have the balls to make this call your gonna lose the tornement anyway becuz your a sally poker player.
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I fold.
I have to call 500k to win 709k plus it is for my tournament life.
I always factor in my tournament life as less odds. If it was 3 to 1 money, but for me tournament I figure it as 2-1 money.
I really need a big hand here to call. Even if he has A6off Those three cards give him 24% pre-flop to knock me out.
Look at the blinds. 2k-4k and I have 500K I am not only not worried about this bubble, but I am in good shape to go deep. No way I risk my whole stack trying to knock out a maniac. Let everyone else call him until he busts out. Which will almost always happen.
I am laying down KK, QQ here too. AA I would be pissed but I might call.
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