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I would have called here. obviously its a possiblitiy he has the nuts with 10/7, since he limps, but its worth the risk.

A massive overbet usually looks too suspicious.

More often than not, 2nd nuts is good enough to call an all-in, especially against a board full of draws. He could have had 10/Jack of hearts, with a big draw

The fold was the right decision in this case, but more often than not you will make money by calling.

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Call. Obvious hearts flush draw and overkill bet with one or two pair. If the straight is not easily completed with connectors, I’ll usually call.

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I am not sure about how many chips did the SB and BB had when they went all in, but I delieve they had far less chips then the CO. In that case I might get paid even if I just beat the CO. So he is the onluy player I have to be scared of.
He could have gone all in with 88, 75, 7hXh and of course he could have 7T, but it is just too good an opportunity to let go. I call.

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I would have thrown my money after that hand.
Sure the all in stinks, but i could never put him on 7 10. It is not as obvious a hand to put him on as a pp hitting some kind of set, though it would be a strange way to play a set. But again, I am but a fish.
I don’t buy the other commentators semibluff-theory. Who semibluffs after a raise ON TURN?

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Use your time bank and reluctantly fold. There is no way you can call here with this action…

An overbet here will suggest one of three things–the absolute nuts, an incredible draw, or a stone cold bluff. Let’s walk through the hand…

Since the action starts on the turn, let’s start there. The SB leads out with a slight overbet. He could have hit paydirt on the flop and didn’t get a chance to check/raise so he could have flopped a nice two pair or top pair and now that the board is coming together, wants to force out the draws that could exist. He could have a set, top pair, or two pair or he could in fact have the nuts or 2nd nuts–after all, it was cheap for him to see the flop and turn. So, we do have to be somewhat concerend about his hand…

The BB flat calls, could be a draw. I don’t think he flat calls with the goods here and let’s a heart hit the river. He would have raised. Let’s put him on a draw or a medium strength hand that he wants to get to showdown cheap.

You raise with your second nuts–I like the raise here, let’s get some money in the pot. Your range from your opponent’s perspective can really only be the nuts or the second nuts. You wouldn’t re-open the betting with just a draw here and only one card to come. And, even if you hit top set here, with two straights on the board in a pot that wasn’t raised preflop, I think you only call here with a set hoping to see the board pair the river.

The cutoff pushes facing a raise, a call, and a re-raise on a board that clearly has two straights. The only drawing hand he could possibly push here is JT hearts giving him the straight flush draw, but only one card to come. He could figure that with all the money in the middle, he’s getting good odds on his money to hit something. Again, since the pot was not raised preflop, he could have your same hand or he could have the nuts as well. So, he’s either got JThh or T7 or 75, maybe 75 of hearts.

It gets back to the SB who calls and the BB who calls before you have to act. I can’t believe that one of them would call without a huge hand here–they really should have a set or a very strong hand to continue.

So, with this action and my reads here, I’m putting the SB on two pair, a set, the nuts, or the 2nd nuts, the BB on the flush draw, and the cutoff on either the nuts or the second nuts.

There is a ton of dead money in the pot, but if someone else has the nuts already, you’re drawing dead and if there’s a set out there and a flush draw out there, you’re going to have to avoid half the deck from hitting for your hand (which would most likely be a split pot) to hold.

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hey, nice comment ally.

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Ally hit the nail on the head. I really can’t add anything as that is what was going through my head when the raise came. I took my time thought it out and made the fold. Probably one of the top 5 sickest folds that I’ve made.
All roads pointed to staring at the nuts.

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Man, I’ve got no business playing poker. If people like Ally can think through all of that in the :30 seconds they have online, I don’t stand a chance. Me, I folded. Took me 5 seconds to think about it. Three people all-in before me, and there’s the possibility of a better hand out there than I have, forget it…I’m out. But clearly that was a lucky guess…

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i woulda folded also since the only other time he over bet was with the nuts. reason being im gonna see his hand and I’ll know if i got a good read on him. that way ill know when he has best hand i know how he bets it

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You raised to get info and build the pot with the 2nd nuts. You got a lot of info from two, yesy two, different players. At best you are second and maybe tied at that or in second and facing a stronger draw (as it was this time). You have to be able to fold in this spot.

PS Folding a winner is by far not the worst error in poker.

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Nice point of view ally; now it really looks like a not so easy fold after all.. Nice analysis… Hope to hear from you in the future

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First of all, what the hell where you doing in the pot with 5-7 suited from UTG??!! If you were on the button, or in the blinds in an unraised pot, I could see why you entered the pot, but UTG limping in with 7 high is just a bad move. You are in bad position and your hand isn’t that strong. You could have saved yourself 280$ by just folding the hand, which was clearly the right move.

But what was done is done, and here I will analyze your decision facing the all-ins. I will put all three opponents on possible hands and then reach the correct decision. I think Ally analyzed the hand really well, so I will discuss some other critical issues about the hand, because I think you played it terribly.

First lets analyze the texture of the flop. It may seem like a very ugly flop, with no flush draws and the numbers are spread apart. Well, it is not a safe flop. The CO could have easily made a set of 4s or 6s, and checked to trap on a flop that seems harmless. The SB completed, where he had 6-1 odds, which basically means he can call with anything. Easily he could have made any two pair. The BB checked preflop which also means he could have anything.

Seeing that you have no information on the strength of any of the hands on the flop, you should have definitely bet on the flop. It is also possible that no one made anything and with a straight draw, I want to pick up the 40$ in the pot right now and be happy about it. I would have bet about 30$ on the flop after both blinds checked. Anyone with a gutshot draw will fold. Anyone with 2 pair or a set will definitely raise. And anyone with top-pair or an open-ended straight draw will call.

If you made a raise of 75% the pot size, you would have gained enough information that would have saved you a lot of money on the turn, and would have probably won you the hand.

The CO had a gut-shot straight draw, and the odds you laid him wouldn’t justify a call from him, so he would have probably folded.

The SB with top pair would have probably called. So you have known he has a good but not huge hand.

The BB would have folded, he still didn’t have the draw.

As you can see, the problem with this hand is not the crazy all-ins on the turn, but the real problem was your check on the flop. You certainly should have bet at least three quarters the size of the pot, to gain very valuable information about all other opponents.

Now, you see you have made 2 huge mistakes in the hand already. 1) You shouldn’t have been in the hand in the first place and 2) the bet on the flop was a must!

Moving on to the turn, the free card you gave your opponents!!

It’s a very dangerous card. The 8(h) made many straights possible now, and a backdoor flush possible too. It is a card that when seeing it, you should have immediately known the action will become crazy.

The SB overbet here. He did that for a reason! The 8 could not have helped him greatly. If he had the nut, or even second-nut straight, he will not overbet the pot. He will probably bet the size of the pot, to lay any flush chasers the wrong odds to call, while not chasing everyone out with his bet. The fact that the flop was checked around could mean that everyone is weak, so if he turned a straight, he would never over bet the pot. If he had 2 pair, the kind of hand I am putting him on initially, he could make that sort of raise. He doesn’t like the flush and straight draws out there, and he wants to take down the pot right now. The overbet means he is not too strong, especially after checks on the flop, and so, from his bet we can conclude that he could have a good hand, but not a good enough hand to beat your straight. You should not worry about him.

The BB calls. This really is scary. Why would he just call here? If he had a drawing hand he does not have the right odds to call. If he made two pair, he is definitely raising here, just to see where he is at. But a call looks very suspicious. He could easily have the nut straight! Remember he checked preflop and on the flop, so 10-7 is a possibility. This is the opponent you should be most worried about!

After an overbettor, and a caller, you raised. I do not agree with this raise. I will be very worried about the BB that I will just call. The raise is not a bad move here, but I prefer a call for the following reason:The SB could have a hand that’s not too strong, and I want him in the hand, a reraise could chase him out. The BB could be holding the nuts and I don’t want him to get a chance to reraise me. Remember that after your reraise the pot will be big enough for him to sucker you in with small reraises if he has the nuts.

At this point, despite fear from the BB, I feel comfortable with my hand, and I don’t want to get reraised, that would really put me to the test.

Alright, so you decide to raise, and as I said, it’s not a very bad move. So, we move on.

The CO goes all-in! When you see that all-in, your alarm should go off!! What can he move-in with? THE NUTS!!! He has an overbettor, a caller, and a reraiser all in front of him, he is pretty sure at least one of you has a big hand and will call his all-in. Now, there is no reason to slow play, so he would move in with the nuts, and only the nuts. If he had the second nuts, he will be worried someone has 10-7, and seeing the action in front of him, it is very possible.

Let’s analyze the hand from his point of view now. He thinks the SB most probably has two pair. The BB could have the second nuts, and decided to call with them, and you = he is putting you on Aces or Kings. That’s the kind of hand you probably could have after limping in UTG, checking the flop and reraising the turn. He has every reason to believe you are slowplaying Aces or Kings. So, with 3 reasonably strong hands in front of him, he will move in with the nuts and the nuts only, and he is feeling comfortable that at least one of you will call!!

After this all-in move, I will really consider laying down my second nut straight, but I will still be agonizing. But after 2 others call the all-in, you must know you are beat, and laydown the hand immediately. You cannot win this hand, not with the action in front of you.

It takes a lot of heart to laydown a straight, and I believe your laydown was absolutely great. But, I believe you played the hand badly before the turn, and you cost yourself 280$ that you should not have lost.

The main problem with this hand, as I showed, was not facing three all-ins, that was a fairly easy laydown, but it was the terrible play that lead to it!!!

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Fold. Gross overbet indicates AT LEAST the probable 10 High Straight. Submit your $270.

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Hi all, first time, looks like fun, First would like to say although Ally and Patrick make some very valid points, it can only be seen as dissapointing how little attention they paid to ALL of the information that was given to them by the the person that submitted the quiz. Will try to be brief as possible. To start with of course no one mentioned that the first thing one should take notice of is the table is 7 handed with all the bigger stacks having position on you for this hand only. SB and BB are MINI stacks.
There are 5 people that take the flop, putting 50 dollars in the pot( NOT 40 PATRICK, once u put your 10 in there its not yours anymore ). Make sure to note that the BB and the SB only have 90 and 100 dollars left infront of them right before u take the flop. The 2 players left to act after you have considerably larger stacks of 1600 and 950. NEXT important note, under misc notes. The submitter gives several very key clues as to the mindset and the tendencies of his key oppenent with the 1600 stack in this pot. First clue is he has been Calling you down light and losing, meaning he is capable of playing lighter starting value hands, and he never raised you once when he was light, but he has raised all in and show WHAT the nuts.
Ok 50 in the pot, whether or not i think playing 75s under gun in 7 handed game is really irrelevant as we are analyzing the situation put forth. After the check around on the flop, whether that was right or wrong is discussion for another time, the overbet by the sb was 90 of his remaining 100, and the bb called all in for 90( HE HAD NOTHING LEFT AFTER HIS FIRST CALL see quiz ), so at this point these two could be holding anything as they have so few chips in relation to the size of the remaining 3 players stacks. Me holding the 75s i am way more concerned about the 2 big stacks that are left behind me. I dont mind the rs to 270 here, but the all in is of grave concern. When this player pushes all in i really dont care what the sb and bb have as they have no money left, i am fully focused now on only one person at this table,( DONT FORGET THE sb and bb are only all in for 100 and 90 dollars which is a point that is surely missed by both Ally and Patrick so although i feel they both reached the correct conclusion in the end and folded their thinking is flawed in giving the sb and bb way to much credit for their possible desperate manouvers with two very short stacks.) Remember what the quizzer said, opponent in this hand has been calling you down light and losing, CALLING you down light, now hes raising , he must have it, if he was light , surely he would just call u down again. Last time he made the nuts he moved all in , now a straight card hit and he moved all in, much to likely he has the nuts. CLEAR FOLD. I estimate at most 5 % of the times he doesnt hold 107 here based on all the information provided by Greg the quizzer.

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very nice post by decision above, spot on i think

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Fold the had one of them has to have the nuts, Forget the overbet, it the other two you have to worry about they called all in that means they have something, a set of the nuts or the same hand you have. Drop it and save some dough.

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tough fold but it had to be really

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call

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i would ask colin stone what he would do

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The small stacks are irrelevent, their money is already in. Gregs raise is to take down the dead money and make the draws pay or fold out.

The cut off must put Greg on a top set or a str8 otherwise the raise would be useless because it would not beat the other hands to take the dead money.

The cut off has been frustrated losing to Greg so could be tilting enough to try to fold out top set or second nuts with a chance to win if he has a good flush draw.

If he has the nuts a smaller raise would seem to be more sensible however he does have a history of raising all in with the nuts and would seem to prefer to take down the pot rather than give flush draws and full house draws the chance to suck out. Therefore you can’t easily determine anything from the overbet.

If you poker stove his hand range of T7, 99, Ah9h, JhTh, 6h7h you are 26% to his 74%.

The profitable option seems to be to fold

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To correct above post

Hand range of T7, 99, Axs, JhTh, 6h7h

You are 47% to 53%, it therefore remains unprofitable to call.

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to correct above post: if it’s 47 to 53, then given the money already in the pot, this would be a profitable call.

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